davidebt Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 Hi all I've just joined a small "rough shoot" at North Repps (near Cromer). No birds released but surrounded by big Norfolk shoots so plenty of birds drift in. There are only two of us at the moment and there is space for a third gun. It suits someone with a dog who can shoot on a weekday every week of the season. £400.00 PM me if you're interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
got_the_eye_in Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 hi there Im sorry if I sound rude but I dont see it fair that you dont put any birds down yourself and only basically POACH off other shoots. It just really winds me up when people pay good money for their birds only to have other people poach them away. Am i being unreasonable in saying this? and to charge £400 for it just doesnt seem fair. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRS Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 maybe he has to pay for some corn and diesel ,rent so why is he taking the piddle ? or is this the site where everyone expects to shoot for free as for shooting midweek , its his shoot , so his rules apply not anyone elses i have offerd shooting and if people dont like it then leave it alone no need for negative critisism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 maybe he has to pay for some corn and diesel ,rent so why is he taking the piddle ? or is this the site where everyone expects to shoot for free as for shooting midweek , its his shoot , so his rules apply not anyone elses i have offerd shooting and if people dont like it then leave it alone no need for negative critisism No chap, noone expects to shoot for free, but all the people i know who pay for this type of thing don't shoot birds intentionally from other peoples shoots, they buy their own. All well and good if he has to pay rent for the land and the price helps cover this, but let him answer the questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRS Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 those birds are his if they wonder onto his shot wether you or anyone else likes it or not as for him answering cannot anyone else make comments like you have or has everyone to have the same negative singular brain cell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 those birds are his if they wonder onto his shot wether you or anyone else likes it or notas for him answering cannot anyone else make comments like you have or has everyone to have the same negative singular brain cell that doesn't make sense chap. but my main concern would be angry neighbours, game keepers from the surrounding shoots etc. If it's all ok and above board then fairplay and good luck to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakin stevens Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 that doesn't make sense chap. but my main concern would be angry neighbours, game keepers from the surrounding shoots etc. If it's all ok and above board then fairplay and good luck to him. Its a fact of life with pheasants moving on to other land, wild cock birds walk released birds off your shoot onto other spots our birds are out all over its up to us to dog them back home to the woods and pens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 If the gamekeepers on the surrounding shoots were any good the birds would not be wandering would they? After all the name Gamekeeper might suggest that they are supposed to KEEP GAME. Although having said that to shoot every week of the season means there must be some birds there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the running man Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 Steady on children,what u rowing about? He's got a slot for a shooter,and he's got a small torrent of abuse (good point though mc!) The guy has obviously no clue or has simply worded things wrongly (of which I to am a culprit!) Give him a chance to correct himself without the vulture squad, and remember after october cyber bullying will become a crime,akin with assault. (Dunno quite how there gonna enforce it mind!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 hi there Im sorry if I sound rude but I dont see it fair that you dont put any birds down yourself and only basically POACH off other shoots. It just really winds me up when people pay good money for their birds only to have other people poach them away. Am i being unreasonable in saying this? and to charge £400 for it just doesnt seem fair. Thanks Its not "poaching", he is shooting on the land he has permission to shoot on. Nobody owns pheasants, whether they are wild birds, or just been released from the pens. I know of loads of small "wild bird" shoots that benefit from birds wandering off next door commercial shoots. The chap is having to pay rent for the ground and probably also putting some food down (that helps to tempt the pheasants next door to cross over the fence). That is not an unreasonable price to pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
got_the_eye_in Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 Its not "poaching", he is shooting on the land he has permission to shoot on.Nobody owns pheasants, whether they are wild birds, or just been released from the pens. I know of loads of small "wild bird" shoots that benefit from birds wandering off next door commercial shoots. The chap is having to pay rent for the ground and probably also putting some food down (that helps to tempt the pheasants next door to cross over the fence). That is not an unreasonable price to pay. I was not saying that the price was unreasonable just dont think it fair to not put any down and just shoot nieghbouring farms game?? is that not a reasonable point? It ******* me off if people should think it right, not to put something down but still expect a return? so your saying that if other livestock i.e chickens enter other peoples land its fair to accept it as your own livestock? Im not causing arguement here but dont think its really fair game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 I wouldn't class pheasants as livestock, in the same way as chickens, cattle, sheep, etc. When the sheep get into my garden, I put them back in the meadow, if they were chickens I would put them back over the fence. It would be interesting to know how the syndicate is supposed to differentiate between "their" wild birds and the ones from the commercial shoot next door. Anyway, we are in danger of derailing this thread. People have the choice of joining, or not and in my humble opinion it sounds like a good offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
got_the_eye_in Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 I wouldn't class pheasants as livestock, in the same way as chickens, cattle, sheep, etc.When the sheep get into my garden, I put them back in the meadow, if they were chickens I would put them back over the fence. It would be interesting to know how the syndicate is supposed to differentiate between "their" wild birds and the ones from the commercial shoot next door. Anyway, we are in danger of derailing this thread. People have the choice of joining, or not and in my humble opinion it sounds like a good offer. Exactly everyone is entitled to thier own opinion and to express it as they wish. It was only an opinon. Not everyone agrees. Good luck though mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonsy Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 I know if I had the land and the birds were there, I'd do some shooting, who wouldn't? If you were the shooter would you place birds down to help the large shoots, no way would you, not unless you are stupid. I say good luck to you, hope you bag plenty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikee Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 i'm in for a 1/2 gun if someone else local wants to shoot alternate weeks to me, would want to look round first though, i've got a dog but he's only a trainee and would want to see the other members gun safety before i bring him, but i'm game if its safe for me and the dog and a chance of getting a few shots mikee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
got_the_eye_in Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 I know if I had the land and the birds were there, I'd do some shooting, who wouldn't? If you were the shooter would you place birds down to help the large shoots, no way would you, not unless you are stupid. I say good luck to you, hope you bag plenty. Most people porbobably would but I know If I did I wouldnt charge other people to do the same. Maybe invite friends, colleagues but not charge. I know I also wouldnt broadcast it if I was to do that. Anyway my comment was not meant to cause arguement sorry for any upset caused! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRS Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 i'm in for a 1/2 gun if someone else local wants to shoot alternate weeks to me, would want to look round first though, i've got a dog but he's only a trainee and would want to see the other members gun safety before i bring him, but i'm game if its safe for me and the dog and a chance of getting a few shots mikee good on you mate and give the guy a chance , have fun and fill your boots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scolopax Posted August 27, 2010 Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 Don't want to derail this thread (good offer BTW) so maybe we should start a new one to discuss the ethics of shooting 'someone elses' birds?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED BEARD Posted August 27, 2010 Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 seems a good offer of a nice bit of shooting to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted August 27, 2010 Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 the only bit to add is aren't there a few true wild bird shoots in that area who get decent bags without releasing. The simple facts are its a dog eat dog world if your shoot nurtures its "wild" birds any extras that wander on are a bonus. Just keep the feeders full and the area quiet and it makes a nice home for pheasants. At that price it sounds like a nice set up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yickdaz Posted August 27, 2010 Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 me and the old fella have been shooting some land for 38 years in the old mans case and 24 years in mine which holds good numbers of wild grey partridges and wild pheasants;and a small section borders a large wood that a syndicate manage so inevitably some of their birds stray over.we don;t go with the sole intention of going after them but if one or 2 end up in the bag so be it.and its only that small bit near the wood that produces released birds we know that due to wild pheasants being smaller and faster than released birds.so can tell when a bird gets up and motors away at 100 miles an hour that its wild and when in the hand after being shot.so if you want to charge people for doing that your decision and good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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