sitsinhedges Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 Anyone tried these cartridges I was thinking about getting some 6 1/2s in fibre for pigeons and then some 7 1/2s in plastic for clays. Wondered how they felt and if they are value for money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b682 Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 (edited) Hi, Yes have tried them and they were ok, but they were made by Lyalvale Express when I had a few. As they now say they contain Diamond shot they must have very recently changed to Gamebore so they will not be the same. Different powders for a start. Sorry that was not to much help. If it was me I would go for the Gamebore Kent Velocity - fair price and good quality. Edited September 2, 2010 by b682 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jinxy72 Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 was thinking of buying some CSP's myself for DTL as they are supposed to be a competition cart .... wonder if they are fast enough for trap ? saying that wonder if they are a competition cart at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted September 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 I have since learned that they are Gamebores standard White Gold in JC's packaging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeker Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 "... fast enough for trap..."?? its one of the slower clay disciplines: a consistent , reliable pattern with minimum shooter wear n tear over 100 straight could be preferable to thors hammer on warp factor ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jinxy72 Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 (edited) "... fast enough for trap..."??its one of the slower clay disciplines: a consistent , reliable pattern with minimum shooter wear n tear over 100 straight could be preferable to thors hammer on warp factor ... yeah but when u got a slow shooter u need a faster cart to catch up was thinking of all trap disciplines m8 not just DTL Edited September 7, 2010 by jinxy72 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunter1968 Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 We used some latley, they were ok, with a good pattern for 40 yard approx . Better still get No6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towngun Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 I have used CPS and numerous other makes and I can say to you what my former shooting coach said to me on the topic of cartridges: "The modern cartridge (whatever it is) is better than the man behind it". You do not miss your bird because of the cartridge, you miss it because "YOU" miss it! Consider this, George Digweed recently broke a clay at 80 years with Gamebore Whitegold. He then used Black Gold No. 5 shoot and break clays out to 130 yards. This proves the ability of the modern cartridge far exceeeds the ability of most men. In this case it was Gamebore but that is because Gamebore sponsor George - it could have been any of a number of cartridges! With regard to Just Cartridges and CPS, John Bull the owner is an expert on ballistics and if he can source the best from the best it matters not if its Express or Gamebore. Remember even the manufacturer’s source their shot and powder abroad! Even Ely is owned by a Spanish Group! If you read the components of CPS you will find they are all topknot: TECHNO BABBLE 28gm plastic wad in shot sizes 7½, 8 & 9 28gm fibre wad in shot sizes 6½, 7½ & 8 Muzzle Velocity: 1,450 fps Antimony Content: 4% Diamond Shot Propellant: Baschieri & Pellagri flake Primer: Cheddite CX1000 Distinctive 70mm translucent purple case with 6 star crimp and 16mm head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apache Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 I use them and have found them very good. Tempted to order a thousand as I can't get Gamebore carts for that price locally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billytheghillie Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 I have used CPS and numerous other makes and I can say to you what my former shooting coach said to me on the topic of cartridges: "The modern cartridge (whatever it is) is better than the man behind it". You do not miss your bird because of the cartridge, you miss it because "YOU" miss it! Consider this, George Digweed recently broke a clay at 80 years with Gamebore Whitegold. He then used Black Gold No. 5 shoot and break clays out to 130 yards. This proves the ability of the modern cartridge far exceeeds the ability of most men. In this case it was Gamebore but that is because Gamebore sponsor George - it could have been any of a number of cartridges! With regard to Just Cartridges and CPS, John Bull the owner is an expert on ballistics and if he can source the best from the best it matters not if its Express or Gamebore. Remember even the manufacturer’s source their shot and powder abroad! Even Ely is owned by a Spanish Group! If you read the components of CPS you will find they are all topknot: TECHNO BABBLE 28gm plastic wad in shot sizes 7½, 8 & 9 28gm fibre wad in shot sizes 6½, 7½ & 8 Muzzle Velocity: 1,450 fps Antimony Content: 4% Diamond Shot Propellant: Baschieri & Pellagri flake Primer: Cheddite CX1000 Distinctive 70mm translucent purple case with 6 star crimp and 16mm head is he that old 80 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdSolomons Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 If there cheap get them. The speed and all that lark is a load of pants makes no odds to results as long as they don't smack you about buy them and gets stuck in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 Charles Bull is an expert on ballistics in the same way your local Doner man is a classically trained French Chef with 3 Michelin stars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaserF3 Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 Charles Bull is an expert on ballistics in the same way your local Doner man is a classically trained French Chef with 3 Michelin stars. :lol: :lol: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 I have used CPS and numerous other makes and I can say to you what my former shooting coach said to me on the topic of cartridges: "The modern cartridge (whatever it is) is better than the man behind it". You do not miss your bird because of the cartridge, you miss it because "YOU" miss it! Consider this, George Digweed recently broke a clay at 80 years with Gamebore Whitegold. He then used Black Gold No. 5 shoot and break clays out to 130 yards. This proves the ability of the modern cartridge far exceeeds the ability of most men. In this case it was Gamebore but that is because Gamebore sponsor George - it could have been any of a number of cartridges! With regard to Just Cartridges and CPS, John Bull the owner is an expert on ballistics and if he can source the best from the best it matters not if its Express or Gamebore. Remember even the manufacturer’s source their shot and powder abroad! Even Ely is owned by a Spanish Group! If you read the components of CPS you will find they are all topknot: TECHNO BABBLE 28gm plastic wad in shot sizes 7½, 8 & 9 28gm fibre wad in shot sizes 6½, 7½ & 8 Muzzle Velocity: 1,450 fps Antimony Content: 4% Diamond Shot Propellant: Baschieri & Pellagri flake Primer: Cheddite CX1000 Distinctive 70mm translucent purple case with 6 star crimp and 16mm head All us re loaders no that the cx 2000 are better so you can keep them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted October 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 All us re loaders no that the cx 2000 are better so you can keep them Looks like a CX2000 to me anyway http://www.justcartridges.com/csp.html CX1000s are brass coloured not copper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utectok Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 Ive shot about three thou of the 6.5 fibre for pigeons and general deeking through my semi in 1/2 choke I find they pattern brilliant and give dead in the air most of the time some long birds too (40yrds). I shall stick with them till something cheaper comes along Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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