stefnc Posted September 26, 2010 Report Share Posted September 26, 2010 I just read through this weeks countrymans weekly and there was an article on hunting with catapults, in which the guys got a picture of a dead fox cub he shot with an elasticated catapult! Ive heard of people shooting rabbits etc with them but foxes??? personally I dont particulaly agree with shooting at foxes with a catapult, Agreed i dont know much about this subject but your views would be appreciated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ550Kevlar Posted September 26, 2010 Report Share Posted September 26, 2010 I think the word dubious springs to mind, the only time i have used a catapault at a fox is when one decides to make an appearance in my garden and it gets a bunch of dried peas launched at it, as for hunting a fox with a ball bearing, cub or adult, A - you need your head testing, B - You need to be charged with animal cruelty C - i would love to know the guys justification as to why he thought he could guarantee a clean humane kill with no suffering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbuss Posted September 26, 2010 Report Share Posted September 26, 2010 I just read through this weeks countrymans weekly and there was an article on hunting with catapults, in which the guys got a picture of a dead fox cub he shot with an elasticated catapult! Ive heard of people shooting rabbits etc with them but foxes??? personally I dont particulaly agree with shooting at foxes with a catapult, Agreed i dont know much about this subject but your views would be appreciated? Not on in my view. Foxes need to be controlled but any living creature deserves to be killed humanely. I'm sure a steel ball from a modern catapult between the eyes would do the job, but how many people could consistently pull that off? A couple of inches out and you'd smash it's jaw or inflict some other nasty injury I've picked up the countryman's weekly a couple of times out of curiosity, but I wouldn't buy it again as it seems to cater for people on the fringe of field sports. Articles from specialist solicitors on how to "get off "charges of badger digging etc. spring to mind. Not my cup of tea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lez325 Posted September 26, 2010 Report Share Posted September 26, 2010 I think the word dubious springs to mind, the only time i have used a catapault at a fox is when one decides to make an appearance in my garden and it gets a bunch of dried peas launched at it, as for hunting a fox with a ball bearing, cub or adult, A - you need your head testing, B - You need to be charged with animal cruelty C - i would love to know the guys justification as to why he thought he could guarantee a clean humane kill with no suffering. well said that man- Ive just bought a 223 for foxes, as I personally consider the 17 HMR I own, is not up to the job ( just my opinion, not wanting to start a war here) So how the hell could a catapult of unknown power and velocity be a suitable tool to despoatch a fox Some people get right up my breach Les Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted September 26, 2010 Report Share Posted September 26, 2010 (edited) Nah it can't be done and who would want to. Even if you did succeed it in killing it we are not talking about instantly, it would only be because you broke a bone and/or set up some internal bleeding which turned to infection or prevented the fox getting around and foraging for food. Always assuming you managed to hit the flipping thing. The story wasn't right next to a big advert for catapults was it by any chance? Edited September 26, 2010 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted September 26, 2010 Report Share Posted September 26, 2010 I don't get it? Whilst there is no specific law against it in this country as far as I am aware, you are likely to be had up under all sorts of cruelty legislation. Many Police regions refuse to issue any rimfire for fox, including 320ft lb plus of .22WMR, I struggle to see any catapault getting close to that power or accuracy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve0146 Posted September 26, 2010 Report Share Posted September 26, 2010 I know someone local to me whos dogs are in the paper most weeks. Pics to go with rabbiting articles etc. None of the dogs have worked a day in their lifes. The pics are staged with already dead rabbits. She openly admits it, its no secret. The paper sometimes has a good article but I rarely buy it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traztaz Posted September 26, 2010 Report Share Posted September 26, 2010 Intresting subject, a catapult with lead balls is a very very lethal thing, this I know. Funny how the view that accuracy is suspect crops up with the words a slight inaccuaracy with a catapult could end up with a fox with no jaw.............shooting foxes with a rifle and a little inaccuracy will do this too, wether that be at 50m or 300m. It is all about the person behind the weapon and their ability with it in my opinion. For that reason I shoot things with a rifle and never at more than 200m as I can not guarentee my accuracy all the time out past that. Food for thought? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbuss Posted September 26, 2010 Report Share Posted September 26, 2010 Intresting subject, a catapult with lead balls is a very very lethal thing, this I know. Funny how the view that accuracy is suspect crops up with the words a slight inaccuaracy with a catapult could end up with a fox with no jaw.............shooting foxes with a rifle and a little inaccuracy will do this too, wether that be at 50m or 300m. It is all about the person behind the weapon and their ability with it in my opinion. For that reason I shoot things with a rifle and never at more than 200m as I can not guarentee my accuracy all the time out past that. Food for thought? Yes a catapult can be surprisingly lethal, I certainly wouldn't want to be on the receiving end but your comparison with a rifle just doesn't stand scrutiny. To be reasonably certain of cleanly killing a fox with a lead or steel ball from a catapult you'd need to take a head shot. The accuracy required to do this CONSISTENTLY, let alone the skill to stalk or call a fox within range (10m? 15m?) is beyond most people, especially the kind of numpties that will be inspired to do so by such sick and irresponsible coverage in a national publication. Most people with reasonable coordination can learn to shoot a rifle accurately. With a centre-fire rifle there is adequate power for boiler room shots and the resultant room for error at "reasonable" ranges. I'm not saying it's not possible to wound a fox with a rifle, but with a catapult it becomes almost a certainty and there is no possible justification for it my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted September 26, 2010 Report Share Posted September 26, 2010 If you could shoot a golf ball first shot everytime then sure it has the power with the right bands and ammo, but i seriously doubt anyone can garantee that sort of shooting with a catty and you could bet the likes of the RSPCA would try charges for cruelty. This sort of thing should be frowned upon IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignoel Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 i have watched a few lads on catapults and they are pretty dam good but i dont know about taking a fox with a catapult a well placed shot maybe but wouldnt like to try it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie10 Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 There are people that can take flying pheasants and running rabbits with catties. Same arguments can be put forward with any weapon. Personally I can't hit anything with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishermanpaddy Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 Don't think it would be humane. As powerful as it is would it be able to penetrate the skull of a Fox and scramble the brain, or pierce the abdomen and incapacitate the heart? If not then you would be relying on blunt force trauma to dispatch the animal in which case you may as well call it within range of a Baseball Bat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blade Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 this blokes good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artschool Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 (edited) this bloke is better! Edited September 27, 2010 by artschool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 Judging by the angle he is firing down at the range is only about ten feet. Impressive though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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