True Cylinder Skeet Shotgun for Pigeon/Crows?

[FJER20]

I'm looking at a true cylinder semi-auto for shooting pigeon and crows with. Do you think it's a suitable gun for the job or would i find the range/spray to short? Any info would be great. Cheers

[JRDS]

I'm looking at a true cylinder semi-auto for shooting pigeon and crows with. Do you think it's a suitable gun for the job or would i find the range/spray to short? Any info would be great. Cheers

 

Good for sub 30 yards but anymore and you would be better served with some choke.

[horatio2308]

i would say it depends alot on how you shoot personally i think cylinder would be a bit too open and you would probably end up with many wounded birds. i would go for a nice over and under and would use 3/8 and 1/2, hope this helps

[COACH]

You`ll get very frustrated with it after about 20yds as you will wing a lot of birds.

They`ll keep flying on and maybe fall in the next field only to become runners

You will spend most of the day chasing runners with a choke that open.

[Blunderbuss]

Open chokes work well over decoys, though I mainly use improved rather than true cylinder. Why not get a multi choke, then you can try others if T/C doesn't work out for you. As it appens I have just the very thing you're looking for (C/W skeet choke)

[horatio2308]

Good for sub 30 yards but anymore and you would be better served with some choke.

 

probably sub 20

[Paddy Galore!]

probably sub 20

not quite the same thing but i have a 410 with cyl choke and it struggles over 20yds. great for sqizzers in the tree canopy tho.

maybe with a larger shot size it'll work well, something like 32g #5s

[FJER20]

Ah right, thats interesting to hear. I already have a nice o/u but fancied a cheap semi auto for the pigeons that doesn't mind getting bashed about. Saw a Remi 1100 skeet true cylinder going cheap, not sure now, might look elsewhere as chasing birds on foot is never much fun

[Whitebridges]

If you put yourself in the novice category start with an open choke when decoying. Don't shoot at birds that are flaring away but stick to killing them "under carriage down". If you discipline yourself open choke is plenty of gun. Modern cartridges throw a tight pattern, use a few of the top brands at 35 yards and you'll see what I mean.

Shooting a lot of choke is a experts game generally and there is a temptation for the inexperienced to shoot at tricky far off birds.

[The Essex Hunter]

Simple, make the shape of a crow and pin it on a Patten test sheet, and look at the results!

You need balance the number of shot to the distance you are comfortable with by changing the chokes so start of with 1/4 and then up the choke , so a few shots will show you where you need to be.

 

Like some of the guys said, you do not want to wound birds, as they deserve a quick despatch.

 

TEH

Edited September 29, 2010 by The Essex Hunter

[yickdaz]

no bud you need some choke for 2nd or 3rd shot if needed with a semi.. i would opt for 1/2 choke.. i only started using an auto last week and put 1/2 choke in it and find it spot on for both decoyed woodies and the longer crossing and high driven shots..

[Vince Green]

The effects of a choke decreases with range but at 40yds the pattern is still about 30% tighter with a full choke. You can compensate for that to some extent by using a smaller size of shot and a good charge like 32gms to get the pattern density up.

 

I used to use my skeet o/u in a hide for pigeons and I never felt greatly disadvantaged but don't go too far out for your shots.

Edited September 29, 2010 by Vince Green

[manxman2]

I'm looking at a true cylinder semi-auto for shooting pigeon and crows with. Do you think it's a suitable gun for the job or would i find the range/spray to short? Any info would be great. Cheers

 

It would be excellent with cartridges that fill the pattern at 30 yards max, 8s, i mean when 90% of the birds you pull on are in a kill zone created by environment and wind.

 

As others have stated multi choke allows you options in the field, improved cylider with trap 7s is all you will need for corvids over decoys.

Edited September 29, 2010 by manxman2

[FJER20]

Does anyone know how much it would cost to have a barrel threaded for multi chokes? What would be the best cartridge to put through it then - something like 32 gram no. 7's?

 

cheers for all the advice, still not quite sure if it's worth getting

[wymberley]

Does anyone know how much it would cost to have a barrel threaded for multi chokes? What would be the best cartridge to put through it then - something like 32 gram no. 7's?

 

cheers for all the advice, still not quite sure if it's worth getting

Hi,

It's probably not, when you add £150 or more to have it multi-choked to the price you're look at now, with the amount of guns on the market you'll probably find something suitable without all the hastle. Furthermore, you say the gun in question is TC which probably means the nominal boring and if so, you would probably find it wouldn't meet the conventional percentage figure for that degree of choke anyway thus making the multi choke work virtually essential.

[Evil Elvis]

Saw a Remi 1100 skeet true cylinder going cheap, not sure now, might look elsewhere as chasing birds on foot is never much fun

 

DONT DO IT!!!

 

REMMINGTONS DONT MAKE GOOD PIGEON GUNS!! tHEY ARE HEAVY UNREALIABLE AND IT SOUNDS LIKE A SKEET GUN.

 

I agree with what everyone else said about tc being unsuitable. As a new semi owner you will probably find 1/2 is ideal, and build up as your confidence grows.I currently use full of extra full on the pigeons, wether its on longer shots or over deeks!!