pigeonstu Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 I would appreciate any thoughts and comments on guns with re-sleeved barrels.got my eye on a english boxlock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave66 Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 As long as they are professionally done and re-proofed, they are OK, their was a good article in a BASC magazine a few months ago about the chap who allegedly was the first to start re-sleeving barrels years ago to give a new lease of life to older guns. If I can find the article I will scan it in for you If it is a top end of the market gun it can affect value unless done by the original manufacturer, do they know who re-sleeved it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 Sleeved guns are less valuable than those with original barrels, however doesn't mean they are any worse to shoot or use, depending on who did the sleeving and how long ago it may be worth getting them measured. Also check the proof marks and reproof marks, a sleeved gun can make a very usable and cost effective way to shoot and own a named gun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabbitbosher Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 Tell you what ,, i'd sooner be shooting a resleeved gun than shooting an old Thin barreled pitted worn out thing What a great way to own a Good old English gun for a quarter of the price and its more than half the gun it was ! As it was said check the proof marks and see that it is stamped Sleeved older ones were marked on the barrel flats later ones are stamped on the tops or sides of the barrels What make is it ? what are the bores like ? is it Tight on its face ? wb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeonstu Posted November 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 As long as they are professionally done and re-proofed, they are OK, their was a good article in a BASC magazine a few months ago about the chap who allegedly was the first to start re-sleeving barrels years ago to give a new lease of life to older guns. If I can find the article I will scan it in for you If it is a top end of the market gun it can affect value unless done by the original manufacturer, do they know who re-sleeved it ? thanks for that dave.not asked the question,its a b.s.a, and funny enough its for sale in a lancashire r.f.d. cheers stu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 I too cannot understand why sleeved barrelled guns are worth less. They are in better condition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeonstu Posted November 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 Sleeved guns are less valuable than those with original barrels, however doesn't mean they are any worse to shoot or use, depending on who did the sleeving and how long ago it may be worth getting them measured. Also check the proof marks and reproof marks, a sleeved gun can make a very usable and cost effective way to shoot and own a named gun cheers 'HDAV' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeonstu Posted November 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 Tell you what ,, i'd sooner be shooting a resleeved gun than shooting an old Thin barreled pitted worn out thing What a great way to own a Good old English gun for a quarter of the price and its more than half the gun it was ! As it was said check the proof marks and see that it is stamped Sleeved older ones were marked on the barrel flats later ones are stamped on the tops or sides of the barrels What make is it ? what are the bores like ? is it Tight on its face ? wb thanks for your advice WB.its only a b.s.a for sale in my local r.f.d, but it is my sort of price and i think i may enjoy owning it.cheers stu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 Properly done a resleeve is probably better than original. Better steel and good as new. However, with all double barrelled guns there is always the question of how well the barrels are aligned, whether resleeved or new. Some resleeves will not have the proper amount of care taken in aligning the barrels because they are done in backstreet workshops. We almost automatically assume that any shotgun is going to shoot to the same point with both barrels but its not a given fact. There are many guns out there that don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudpatten Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Only because it`s Sunday and I`m feeling pedantic. The process is known as "sleeving" and is performed on worn out or damaged barrels. For a gun to be "re sleeved" that process would have had to have been done once already, and the subsequently sleeved barrels worn out or damged, and then re sleeved. Sorry about the pedantry. I was forced to do it. I hate incorrect terminology and I couldn`t help myself! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeker Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 So if it was a re-barrell on a gun that had originally been built on a monoblock would that be re-monblocked / sleeved or re-re-sleeved or ..... ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudpatten Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Good question. I`m settling for "re barreling" for a gun built on the monoblock system. By the very nature of how the inventor of the process intended to apply it to chopper lump barrels and actually called it "sleeving" and not "re sleeving". Why are you being so pedantic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeker Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 just to iterate you comment ".. only because its sunday.." pedants rule . KO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudpatten Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Good enough reason! Incidentally, that should be "Dyslexics rule.KO!" Sorry! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berettaman Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 (edited) just to iterate you comment ".. only because its sunday.."pedants rule . KO I think you meant to say RE-ITERATE didnt you Its sunday dont you know!!! Edited November 7, 2010 by berettaman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeker Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 NO .. can't re-iterate until you've iterated .... Is it still sunday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeonstu Posted November 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Only because it`s Sunday and I`m feeling pedantic. The process is known as "sleeving" and is performed on worn out or damaged barrels. For a gun to be "re sleeved" that process would have had to have been done once already, and the subsequently sleeved barrels worn out or damged, and then re sleeved. Sorry about the pedantry. I was forced to do it. I hate incorrect terminology and I couldn`t help myself! mudpatten/seeker. calm down guys this is getting to technical for me.wish i had not asked the question seriously. thanks for all your help,appreciated stu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeker Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 In your part of the world is Entwistle of Blackpool ... they specialise in shotgun sleeving and there was a thread on how good their work is. IIRC they do a lot of trade work. A quick chat with them could put your mind at rest on the safety, value issue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptrangmar Posted November 10, 2010 Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 Most new guns these days seem to be built using sleeves in a monoblock. Cheaper I guess than chopper lump manufacture. I would think a gun with brazed lumps would not be worthy of re sleeving though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redial Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 Would you not think the rest of the gun is well worn / used Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenlivet Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 (edited) Would you not think the rest of the gun is well worn / used The original post is 5 1/2 years old. He probably made a decision😀 Edited February 15, 2016 by Glenlivet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunman Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Sleeving is OK . I have been involved with it for over 30 years and have sleeved more guns than I care to remember ,I have also built numerous barrels on the mono block system .As said if its done correctly then there is no problem . Basically it will depend on the original barrels as to how well they were put together and how heavy the back ends are when cut off .To honest I have worried more about the strength of the actions in proof than the barrels on many occasions . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenholland Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 had my William powell 1891 hammer gun sleeved in 1969 for £49 and 10 shillings still going strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenlivet Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 had my William powell 1891 hammer gun sleeved in 1969 for £49 and 10 shillings still going strong.£500 now..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Would you not think the rest of the gun is well worn / usedProbably is now lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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