decoying mad Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 as above my hatsan keep missfireing all im geting is a click then nothing its done it loads of times now and is geting very annoying can anyone suggest what may cause this before i take it to the gun shop. or put it in the bin. or has anyone had the same with there own hatsan ? thanks dm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lez325 Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 How often do you CLEAN it? It could be a build up of carbon on the block Les Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decoying mad Posted November 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 How often do you CLEAN it? It could be a build up of carbon on the block Les ive had it to bits lez and cleaned it all up. its as if the fireing pin hasnt got anough power in it to hit the cartridge hard anough to set it off when ive checked the cartridge after missfire there is only a slight mark on the center of the shell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ91 Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 are you letting the 'bolt' go forward on its own, if you hold it and slowly let it forward it doesnt 'smash' forwards it wont clip onto the cartridge and wont fire..i have done it a few times when trying the load quietly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmason24 Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 as above my hatsan keep missfireing all im geting is a click then nothing its done it loads of times now and is geting very annoyingcan anyone suggest what may cause this before i take it to the gun shop. or put it in the bin.or has anyone had the same with there own hatsan ?thanks dm Having recently bought a Hatsan (Or Hatstand as they are commomly known as)I have had a number of issues although it is probably a rogue gun from new? My son had the same problem with the firing pin last Sunday at a clay shoot. Small depression on the percussion cap, gun misfires? Wait 30 second unload ... reload gun fired. Gunsmith said its possibly a pin misalignment!!! TJ91 is indeed correct, depress the load button on the side and let the working parts slide home to engage the cartridge. Hatsans dont like 21g loads, not enough power to reload, 28gs are the minimum because of the heavy action on these guns. Sometimes the gun tries to double load causing numerous stoppages. Yes, you have to clean these guns (as with all firearms)well and oil in the right places where necessary, but dont over do it! Under a 3yr no quibble warranty so its gone back to Edgar Brothers via the gun shop I bought it from. You certainly get what you pay for. Now hanging the expense and going for a Benelli Montefeltro, beautiful action, light and very innovative in regards to the semi auto action as its not gas operated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4eyes Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 ive had it to bits lez and cleaned it all up. its as if the fireing pin hasnt got anough power in it to hit the cartridge hard anough to set it off when ive checked the cartridge after missfire there is only a slight mark on the center of the shell Your welcome to pop round to mine and compare if you like. Might be the spring in the trigger group. I have issues with mine when i leave a bit too much oil behind when cleaning. Drop me a PM if you wanna bob round. In most of the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 I used to have this problem with mine. I got so fed up with it, I binned the gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decoying mad Posted November 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 Your welcome to pop round to mine and compare if you like. Might be the spring in the trigger group. I have issues with mine when i leave a bit too much oil behind when cleaning. Drop me a PM if you wanna bob round. In most of the day. just had a nip through to shooters world at mexbrough and andy showed me how to get the hammer out of the gun and it was full of **** so going to give it a good clean and go from there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4eyes Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 Fair dos. Let me know if not. Had mine in enough bits often enough so happy to help out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poorpeet Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 I have to disagree with the 21grm statement. I use 21grm Hull comp X all the time in mine with no issues. They are only 65mm carts to. Mind you mine has a 3" chamber. I think the 3 1/2" chambered guns are a bit fussy about the carts that they will cycle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vampire Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 Keep it clean Let it slam shut Keep it tight to the shoulder for cycling to work propery 32g carts work best imho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmason24 Posted November 10, 2010 Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 I have to disagree with the 21grm statement. I use 21grm Hull comp X all the time in mine with no issues. They are only 65mm carts to. Mind you mine has a 3" chamber. I think the 3 1/2" chambered guns are a bit fussy about the carts that they will cycle. Thats Interesting I was told by the gunsmith that these guns needed 28g + to cycle properly. I tried 21g express which I have always used and it was an epic failure, it got so bad the gun didnt even eject the cartridge after firing, christ, did I get some looks at the clay shoot!!! Perhaps Hull Comp x are better? The action is stiff and heavy, but I didnt expect Benelli standard for this price. As I mentioned before, I think I had a rogue gun, "it just didnt work"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poorpeet Posted November 10, 2010 Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 Yes there may be a problem with your particular gun. I've used a few different 21grm carts and all have been fine. You sure your one is a 3" chambered one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmason24 Posted November 10, 2010 Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 Yes there may be a problem with your particular gun. I've used a few different 21grm carts and all have been fine. You sure your one is a 3" chambered one? Yes mate, it is the 3" one, bought brand new out of the box Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul@Ribchester Posted November 10, 2010 Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 Never had a problem with mine from 21g on the clays to 32g number6 which i use for everything else. I have only ever cleaned the barrel and front end but not every time I go out.... Where has the "View new posts" option gone..........? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davecooper1 Posted November 10, 2010 Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 Paul, top right hand corner, view new contents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elowarr Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 (edited) Mines a 3" and I use 3" 30g carts the problem I'm having at the moment is that once fired and the spent cart is ejected the next to be chambered sometimes catch on the lip of the bore as if it starts to chamber before the cart is fully up. Edited November 13, 2010 by elowarr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 Trade it in and buy a Beretta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elowarr Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 Trade it in and buy a Beretta. That was helpful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilo17 Posted November 16, 2010 Report Share Posted November 16, 2010 Ive got a 20g 3 shot semi and it wont cycle the last round, it only gets about half way out the mag any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmason24 Posted November 18, 2010 Report Share Posted November 18, 2010 Ive got a 20g 3 shot semi and it wont cycle the last round, it only gets about half way out the mag any ideas? Hi gilo17, what gun are you using and what load in the cartridge. Most semi shooters use 28g loads and up, some are even are ok with 24g loads. The Browning Golds can handle 21g loads and some on this forum have been good with various cartridge brands such as the Hull Comp X. I had a Hatsan Escort and it didnt like the 21gs... Express Cartridges! Gun dealers will also tell you to use around the 28g for a good clean cycle of shots without any issues. I took back the Hatsan and invested in a Benelli....lovely gun. Suggest you try a different cartridge or up the load, thats if your using 21g. I would aslo ensure the action is lightly oiled in the slide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ91 Posted November 18, 2010 Report Share Posted November 18, 2010 take the whole thing to pieces give it a good clean up, fine wire wool over the places where acrbon builds up and then lightly oil it on all metal parts that arent coated my escort has 3" chambers and does cycle 21g loads but i use mainly 30/32gram loads it soaks up the recoil of 3" 50gram loads well and i have only ever had 1 out of welll over 5000shots not recycle properly which was down to me not cleaning it well enough make sure you tighten the cap well (at the foreend) hold the gun tight in your shoulder make sure your o-ring on the tube is in decent nick and check for the clip on top of the tube..if broken it will not chamber the shells properly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuck. Posted November 18, 2010 Report Share Posted November 18, 2010 Mines a 3" and I use 3" 30g carts the problem I'm having at the moment is that once fired and the spent cart is ejected the next to be chambered sometimes catch on the lip of the bore as if it starts to chamber before the cart is fully up. Have you tried taking the block out checking for gunk? Is it just one brand of magnum you've tried? Ive got a 20g 3 shot semi and it wont cycle the last round, it only gets about half way out the mag any ideas? What load cartridge have you been using and how old is the gun? As TJ says, make sure you hold it tight in your shoulder when you fire it, and that you don't have a thick layer of clothing seperating you from the gun. Check the O rings if you have a cycling problem, even if you don't see any imperfections in the rubber stick the spare one on and give it a go. If it's an older model Escort you might need the uprated spring they put on the new ones. Older ones are notorious for cycling problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lez325 Posted November 18, 2010 Report Share Posted November 18, 2010 just had a nip through to shooters world at mexbrough and andy showed me how to get the hammer out of the gun and it was full of **** so going to give it a good clean and go from there and you told me you cleaned it - Glad its sorted for ya fella Les Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing-Bong Posted November 18, 2010 Report Share Posted November 18, 2010 Interesting reading, mine is throwing two cartridges out of the tube on the first shot, resulting in a jam. At the mo I'm using 65mm 28grm RC Professional Game. I usually use 67mm Prestige but the shop had run out. Why does it try to feed two as I'd like to remedy it. The gun has been stripped and cleaned, although not with wire wool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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