roadkill Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 It was only last week me and my shooting buddy was talking about cattle attacking walkers with dogs , As he didnt relise there had been a few deaths in 2009... Ithe get a phone call off him Saturday night telling me a walker had been killed by a bull on the land next door to our shooting ground in Loughborough. And then to top things off we were out last night on another bit of land and as i shown the lamp across the grass land a herd of about 10 beasts were all running straight at us. So we bailed over a fence and into some woods. That was a very close call im not sure if what happened at the weekend made it feel worse but we have been up this land for over a year and they have always ignored us before. Is it something in the air or do they have a habbit of doing this ? It has put us both off going on this bit of land again to be honest. roadkill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 For some odd reason cows always follow me.Many a time while walking my dog i'll have that funny feeling im being watched and normally have the entire herd walking in crocodile file behind me.I must admit that im a cautious about entering a field when they're with calves or if theres a bull so normally stick to the edges just incase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artschool Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 i always keep an eye out for calves and make sure i dont get between them and mum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 dogs are a big issue, cattle feel threatened by them and if they have young try to protect them. People then pick their dog up and that is when they get trampled, always drop the dog as it will run faster and then face the cattle and even advancing at them can help. With bulls its different and if you know what you're doing you check whether there is one with the different dangly equipment before going in. In this case i think the bull broke into the field with the footpath because there were cows in it so it is hard on the farmer and the walkers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salop Matt Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 They definatly dont like the smell of blood. If me and SL are out lamping the Moo`s dont seem bothered when we pass them empty handed, but when we come back and have gutted rabbits they seem to smell the blood and want to follow or get close to work out whats happening ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 Cattle are the without a doubt the most dangerous and most unpridictable animal you will come across in the country side . The cows are more unpredictable than the bulls . I have seen some nasty incidents with cows over the years and they deserve your utmost respect . Any stock man will tell you to watch them at all times . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegasus bridge Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 Cattle are the without a doubt the most dangerous and most unpridictable animal you will come across in the country side . The cows are more unpredictable than the bulls . I have seen some nasty incidents with cows over the years and they deserve your utmost respect . Any stock man will tell you to watch them at all times . Harnser . now thats some sense. i often get the **** taken out of me for my phobia of cows - but it only developed after being chased by a herd of dairy cows (not a calf or bull in sight - and i didnt have a dog either) - i had been in fields with them lots of times before this - but they very definitley wanted to do me some harm... i do love roast beef though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonesbach Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 Cattle are the without a doubt the most dangerous and most unpridictable animal you will come across in the country side . The cows are more unpredictable than the bulls . I have seen some nasty incidents with cows over the years and they deserve your utmost respect . Any stock man will tell you to watch them at all times . Harnser . not sure about this...throw a horse into the mix and id say its more dangerous. when a cow chases you id head is down and does give you that small chance of avoiding it..a horse will kick with hind legs and trample with front legs..both without taking its eyes off you. anyhow, if your in a field of cows and they start approaching, dont run..they just run after you. stand ground and wave an arm or two to scare them. if mr.bull is in the field though, then your brave to enter...! :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ91 Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 not sure about this...throw a horse into the mix and id say its more dangerous. when a cow chases you id head is down and does give you that small chance of avoiding it..a horse will kick with hind legs and trample with front legs..both without taking its eyes off you. anyhow, if your in a field of cows and they start approaching, dont run..they just run after you. stand ground and wave an arm or two to scare them. if mr.bull is in the field though, then your brave to enter...! :o have to agree about the hoprses...1 ends dangerous the other expensive!! its not nice having a horse shoe planted on the ribs by a hunt horse, it aint pwetty either! and them damn shetlands that do not but bite all the time but the other bit i disagree..i would rather be in a field with a bull than a cow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weejase Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 Well at least I`m not alone now :unsure: A couple of months ago I was out lamping at a mates ground when I was chased by about 15 cows :o We were In a field lamping rabbits and the cows were a good couple of hundred yards away, my two mates and I broke up as I had just popped a bunny and was going to pick It up. As I was bending over I heard a rumbling noise, so I flicked on the lamp and looked over my shoulder There was a big line of cows In full stampede mode about 75 yards away and heading straight for me :( I picked up the rabbit and ran for my life towards the big metal gate at the corner of the field, as I reached the gate the bunny was launched over along with my sticks, and then I managed to throw myself over. After I had got over the gate they ran round In a big arch and headed towards my mates who had luckily seen me getting chased and got themselves over the fence. I swear If I had not ran faster than the speed of sound I would have been dead Do I trust cows..... do I **** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight32 Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 (edited) I have to say you can just sense if something is not right. I was out wildfowling one evening in early october this year and as I entered the car park I noticed a woman walking straight through the middle of the marsh with a babe in pushchair, a youngster walking alongside and a poorly behaved dog running about all over the field. I could see that the cows on the field had spotted the intrusion so I opened the gate and drove over to her to have a word. I said you her did she how dangerous a situation she could be in with the children and the dog running about once she got another 100 yards closer to the cattle? She did'nt realize and was 'Only taking a short cut to the holiday home she was staying in' but still did'nt like the fact I had told her about it and initially did'nt believe me that there could be any problem as 'Cows are friendly when there ist'nt a bull with them'. I just told her to get in the truck with her children and put the pushchair in the back with the dog as it was a potentially dangerous situation well worth avoiding. Once we got off the field one of the marshmen was waiting as he was wondering what I doing driving onto the marsh. Once we were all together he told the woman I was dead right and in typical suffolk style told her 'You ought to go back to the city woman' Edited November 15, 2010 by starlight32 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaniel Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 Im not a lover of cattle when im out shooting, i actually hate walking back in the dark when i know they are about, but if you turn on your torch they will come over as they are very nosey creatures....younge bulls i find are the worst as they dont want to move out of the way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ST3V3 Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 best thing to do is give them a very wide birth you wont find me in a field with them they scare the **** out of me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crosshair Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 Some farmers say that their cattle can be more unpredictable during the hours of darkness. The most important thing to remember is that cattle do not like dogs, they regard them as their enemy, A cow with a young calf is an animal to be avoided, some years back while driving cattle on horseback the cattle dog was chased by a cow, the dog ran back to me, the cow obviously mad then put her head under the horses belly and tumbled me and the horse, I still have the scar on my leg, the horse was sixteen hands, so not a small horse. I have never used a dog to herd cattle since that incident, I use a Quad now, and even then some mothers of calves try to have a go at it. I think I wrote on here before what a herd of cows did to a fox caught in a snare overnight, not a pretty sight. Still, my condolences to the family of the man killed by the cattle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 i worked on many a farms in years gone buy.cows never bothered me,still walk across fields now, i looked after 50 bulls, and only had 1 bad one, same with pigs be care full when they have young,the boars were good as well, only got chased by one and i jumed over a 5 bared gate, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richie223 Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 come in my field and see what you get,lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadkill Posted November 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 im glad were not alone , i thought we were being wimps. We did have a laugh when we got to the other side of the cattle grid . But that piece of the estate we wont be visiting again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conygree Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 (edited) The above cattle look ok to me. I have both worked on farms and generally been in hte countryside for many years, no problems untill on day out for a walk with my 2 yr old son say 16 yrs ago. As we walked across a field a herd of Highland cattle walked up, I waited untill they were close then put my arms up to 'shoo' them off, all moved except one. The large beast just dropped his head and charged, we couldn't get to the hedge in time, so rememberining my fathers advise from horse riding'fear travels down the reins' so a I charged the beast with a baby carrier, brought it to a stop, but was now face to face looking at a set of 3 ft wide horns, as I backed he moved forwward so I had to counter his move. This went on for say 10 mins slowly moving to the fence, I told my wife to move with our son but the beast charged again at him, so i stepped in his way and brought the beast to a stop again. It's not being brave I simply 'wrote myself off', we all got out ok. I contacted the HSE agricultual div (police useless) and the animal was treated as 'dangerous' and action taken. All the other highland cattle were ok - still have a thing about horned cattle. A friend walking a dog across a field near her home was chased and trampled in her throat - she crawled home and spent weeks on a ventillator. Most young cattle love to have a run around in summer evenings and are no trouble at all. Edited November 17, 2010 by Conygree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_R Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 I have to admit I am also very wary of cattle. One of the fields I used to shoot over could only be accessed by walking across a pasture, and I never felt comfortable if they were too close. I remember years ago fishing by a river, and turning round to see I had a bovine audience all very close indeed. :o It was ages before they went away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 I remember years ago fishing by a river, and turning round to see I had a bovine audience all very close indeed. lol-i've had that too and its not a good feeling or the smell from their breath! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apache Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 Cattle are gentle creatures, you just need to understand a little of their behaviour. They are naturally friendly and inquisitive and usually they are just seeing who you are and what you are doing. People often bring food! If you run they will chase you. Don't let them surround you, because they can bolt and knock you down. Keep well away from cows with young calves - they naturally protect their young. This is especially so in 'native' breeds, like Highland Cattle, Belted Galloway etc. They don't like dogs, and will chase them, let the dog off it's lead, don't pick it up. It can run faster than cattle can. They get wound up by the smell of blood, also they are attracted to women around the time off their period, especially bulls and cows in heat. I walk my dog with a stick and if they are bothering you wave it at them, they will run off. I love cattle and have no fear of them. If you want a dangerous animal think horse! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookiemonsterandmerlin. Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 Cattle are gentle creatures, you just need to understand a little of their behaviour. They are naturally friendly and inquisitive and usually they are just seeing who you are and what you are doing. People often bring food! If you run they will chase you. Don't let them surround you, because they can bolt and knock you down. Keep well away from cows with young calves - they naturally protect their young. This is especially so in 'native' breeds, like Highland Cattle, Belted Galloway etc. They don't like dogs, and will chase them, let the dog off it's lead, don't pick it up. It can run faster than cattle can. They get wound up by the smell of blood, also they are attracted to women around the time off their period, especially bulls and cows in heat. I walk my dog with a stick and if they are bothering you wave it at them, they will run off. I love cattle and have no fear of them. If you want a dangerous animal think horse! The most sense spoken on the subjest so far and clearly we have alot of members who are not tuned into cattle trails of thought. Horses are def the most dangerous by a mile. Regards OTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crosshair Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 It's a false sense of security to believe that cattle are gentle creatures, sadly a lot of people have been killed by them over the last few years proving the point. The days when all cattle were tethered by night are gone, and so has the personal contact, cattle are now in large covered yards and the personal touch has gone. And can anyone give some facts about people being killed by mad horses, I have'nt seen any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Essex Hunter Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 It was only last week me and my shooting buddy was talking about cattle attacking walkers with dogs , As he didnt relise there had been a few deaths in 2009... Ithe get a phone call off him Saturday night telling me a walker had been killed by a bull on the land next door to our shooting ground in Loughborough. And then to top things off we were out last night on another bit of land and as i shown the lamp across the grass land a herd of about 10 beasts were all running straight at us. So we bailed over a fence and into some woods. That was a very close call im not sure if what happened at the weekend made it feel worse but we have been up this land for over a year and they have always ignored us before. Is it something in the air or do they have a habbit of doing this ? It has put us both off going on this bit of land again to be honest. roadkill I was ferreting on a piece of ground they had a herd of all black cattle. They were right over the other side of a very big field so I found a small earth to net up and was busy doing that, then I looked up to see three cattle leading the herd in a sprint my way, so I was grabbing my nets but gave up to grab the ferret box and the net bag and leap over the barb wire fence, and landed in the ditch. The three were pushing the fence hard to get at me so I lobbed the ferrets over the back fence and took my graft and bashed the big one the head, this stopped it for a minute to give me time to get up the other side and save me and the ferrets as I could see them in the ditch on top of me and my jills. I was ok as I had my graft but would have never forgave my self if the ferret box would have been trampled. Solution don’t go back………. TEH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookiemonsterandmerlin. Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 Looks like we got quite a few townies on here yes respect all large animals be frightened of them no. Less face mixing large animals with folk who have little or no knowledge of them them is asking for trouble. Be it a ramblers on public footpath or a shooter in the field. Regards OTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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