bullet1747 Posted January 1, 2011 Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 going to apply for my fac been going to do it for a couple of months but wanted to get to know my permission better, im not going to spoil my chances by applying for something out of my reach just something to drop rabbits (got my sgc), so my question is wot would be best to start with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxbuster Posted January 1, 2011 Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 Go for a 22 or hmr if i was you. Dont foget to put in for a moderator too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet1747 Posted January 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 cheers sorry to sound dumb but by 22 do you meen pcp and hmr is not and why do you have to apply for moderator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apache Posted January 1, 2011 Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 What do you want to shoot? If it's bunnies [like me] I put in for .22RF and .17HMR both with sound mods [have to be listed on your ticket]. If you think you might have need for one FAC air is almost a rubber stamping exercise with the other two. Sort of wish I had put in for one at the time. If you want to shoot anything bigger then you'll be looking at centrefire rifles. Foxes and deer etc. You need 'good reason' for each. .22RF for close to mid range rabbit control, effectively silenced with mod. .17HMR longer range vermin control. Moderators good reason something like operator health and safety [hearing protection]. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktattoo Posted January 1, 2011 Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 (edited) basically as above 22rf & 17hmr both plus mods, after that depends on your permission what it has been cleared upto in calibre and what else you have permission to shoot ie fox for which you will probably need a centrefire rifle ie .22 hornet, .222,223.22-250 after that you are generally getting into deer calibres .243, .270. What you need to remember you must have a good reason for each rifle you ask for, some also ask you state action type as well such as bolt action or semi auto etc Edited January 1, 2011 by marktattoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted January 1, 2011 Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 you wont go far wrong with a .22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomV Posted January 1, 2011 Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 When I rang the local FLO I was informed that I would need experience of using .22LR or .17HMR if I wanted to apply for either. Is this reasonable? This may be difficult as I dont know many people with either? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apache Posted January 1, 2011 Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 When I rang the local FLO I was informed that I would need experience of using .22LR or .17HMR if I wanted to apply for either. Is this reasonable? This may be difficult as I dont know many people with either? The simple fact is, would I like the idea of ANYONE with no experience walking around with a rifle? To me the answer is no, so I can see why they want some experience or insist on mentors. There is a big step up from an air rifle to a rimfire. There must be someone who would take you out a couple of times before applying, that was all I did. No mentoring conditions or anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katash Posted January 1, 2011 Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 Join a club - that way you'll get to use the club guns to count towards experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet1747 Posted January 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 When I rang the local FLO I was informed that I would need experience of using .22LR or .17HMR if I wanted to apply for either. Is this reasonable? This may be difficult as I dont know many people with either? does 3 years in the infantry give me experience (1987 marksman) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted January 1, 2011 Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 A .22lr is a monumental hike in power for most people who may be used to a sub 12ft lb air rifle, it is a whole new world and frankly very powerful in it's own right, very easily capable of killing people and to be taken very seriously. By all means apply for a HMR at the same time but get the .22lr first, learn and enjoy, and as someone else said don't forget to apply for sound moderators as well. A .22lr with subs and a mod is a very quiet tool and very capable on the bunnies. ATB! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted January 1, 2011 Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 does 3 years in the infantry give me experience (1987 marksman) Does the FEO know? ....and if so what was his response? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted January 1, 2011 Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 cheers sorry to sound dumb but by 22 do you meen pcp and hmr is not and why do you have to apply for moderator does 3 years in the infantry give me experience (1987 marksman) Did you not use the sleeved down .22 tools in early range practice and commonly other practice as well. Anyone who has used military calibres must appreciate the benefit of a moderator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet1747 Posted January 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 Did you not use the sleeved down .22 tools in early range practice and commonly other practice as well. Anyone who has used military calibres must appreciate the benefit of a moderator. yes we zeroed once with .22 on an indoor range pity we never used mods on the SLR 7.62 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimmie Posted January 1, 2011 Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 Join a club - that way you'll get to use the club guns to count towards experience. this is the best way as you get exp after a few months you wont have a single problem getting an fac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy1403 Posted January 1, 2011 Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 no dis-respect to the OP but i think you need to do a bit of research on what you require before meeting your FEO. he is not going to give you a FAC if you cant demonstrate a basic knowledge in what tools you want to do what job. knowing the differance between fac air,rimfire and centrefire to start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duncan Posted January 1, 2011 Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 no dis-respect to the OP but i think you need to do a bit of research on what you require before meeting your FEO. he is not going to give you a FAC if you cant demonstrate a basic knowledge in what tools you want to do what job. knowing the differance between fac air,rimfire and centrefire to start. True. I got my rf because I'd done a lot of research and when we were talking the feo said it showed I knew at least the basics. I think that it helped havinga permission where t he owner also shot rf and unofficially mentored me. ATB Duncan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet1747 Posted January 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 no dis-respect to the OP but i think you need to do a bit of research on what you require before meeting your FEO. he is not going to give you a FAC if you cant demonstrate a basic knowledge in what tools you want to do what job. knowing the differance between fac air,rimfire and centrefire to start. agree 1000000% thats y im asking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vampire Posted January 1, 2011 Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 If you only want to shoot rabbits (as i do),then the .22 air/.22lr/.17hmr will do the job,it depends what type of land you shoot on,if its paddocks and small meadows i would go for fac air in .22 as it will shoot straight like 12flbs but a bit further and still have enough energy to kill,if your on fields then .22lr (rimfire) has more range and just as quiet and still cheap rounds but does richochet,for more range and straight easy shooting then go for a .17hmr bit more noise but if your shooting a big area it shouldnt be a problem. As said in other posts,you will need to list a moderator for each of the rifles you put down and also that its for vermin/expanding ammo and state how much you will purchase and hold. We all started somewhere and here is a good place to ask as many questions as like,there will always be someone to help,dont use this as your only reference point though do more research from other sources as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet1747 Posted January 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 any one recommend a gun club we have normal air rifle clubs but cant seem to find one for fac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
here iam Posted January 2, 2011 Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 any one recommend a gun club we have normal air rifle clubs but cant seem to find one for fac I go to Paul Lane rifle and pistol club at mirfield west yorkshire easy to get to of the m62 corridor Do a google you find the website Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted January 2, 2011 Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 Stead hall is north of Leeds and indoors, personally i feel range shooting has liitle or no relivence as you shoot at targets with perfect backstops every time. You need to just apply and use your military experiance they can get this confirmed if they choose, if they say you need mentoring you do end of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet1747 Posted January 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 Stead hall is north of Leeds and indoors, personally i feel range shooting has liitle or no relivence as you shoot at targets with perfect backstops every time. You need to just apply and use your military experiance they can get this confirmed if they choose, if they say you need mentoring you do end of. must admit you never forget the training and the discipline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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