shaun4860 Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 (edited) I am sorry if my views on overtime payments have offended some its not my intention to offend. I may have got some facts wrong yes and I say sorry if I have. But I also say I have read comments by some of members who knocked BA and firefighters for threating strike action and complaining about there wages etc.Who are here defending surgeons. I am not been offended by your strong views on the matter and for certain not jealous of there incomes just question in the current climate is it right. Anyway back to shooting and other things that we all have a passion kind regards OTH BA Heathrow crew are trying to be a law unto themselves, Gatwick aircrew have already signed up to the new pay deal, Heathrow think they are something special, They arnt!! Firefighters i wont go into as i posted enough on that thread when it was started. OTH, in your world would everyone be paid the same, and stand in a long queue with a guy at the front telling them which jobs they will be doing? I spent 3 months in hospital because of a misdiagnosis by a surgeon, if i found i was going to be operated on once again by him i would decline but would be happily seen by another surgeon, Hopefully the surgeon who dealt with me will know better next time. Do i think they are worth their money?....too right! Shaun Edited January 14, 2011 by shaun4860 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 If you squeeze BA cabin crew and they all walked out the next day, well you could replace them all in a heart beat with equally skilled Virgin Cabin crew who will do the same job for less money or you could go down to any gay nightclub and hire the bar staff who will already be gay and able to serve drinks and thereby meet 95% of the job criteria. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 I hope you all know OTH and he's not easily offended. I also hope recent posters subscribe to the view that everyone has a right to their view - even if, "by all accounts they are a communist". Enlightenment and an understanding of tolerance doesnt necessarily follow a reading of this thread. Surely a pigeon watch where many dont post for fear of ridicule, or public and unjustified jibe, is not desirable. A bit dissapointing really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrelsniffer Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 Cant we all agree this is just dragging on and on. Bottom line is they do an amazing job worth every penny.....END OFF ! And get back to shooting related chitchat ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 (edited) I think you will find that belligerence simply met belligerence Or communist belligerence met with sound economic and considered belligerence. Everyone is entitled to their own point of view and to act and be as stupid as they want to. No rights have been affected during the making of this thread. References to BA cabin crew all being homosexuals is purely co-incidental. Edited January 14, 2011 by Mungler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookiemonsterandmerlin. Posted January 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 Cant we all agree this is just dragging on and on. Bottom line is they do an amazing job worth every penny.....END OFF ! And get back to shooting related chitchat ? Fair call I am signing off this one Cheers OTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 (edited) I was cooking with one ear open on the BBC news and medical surgeons said they would down tools if there 4 hour overtime payment went down to £500 for 4 hours from £1000 for four hours overtime. Cheers OTH And for my tuppence...I wonder how much the guffawing Jemima's at the BBC who 'broke' the story are on? Whatever ridiculous sum it is I can virtually guarantee that they aren't worth it. Edited January 14, 2011 by mick miller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 and there we have the most sensible post so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docholiday Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 (edited) I hope you all know OTH and he's not easily offended. I also hope recent posters subscribe to the view that everyone has a right to their view - even if, "by all accounts they are a communist". Enlightenment and an understanding of tolerance doesnt necessarily follow a reading of this thread. Surely a pigeon watch where many dont post for fear of ridicule, or public and unjustified jibe, is not desirable. A bit dissapointing really. Kes you seem a bit disappointed by a number of threads on here, could it be that coseted in your goverment post you have been shielded from the real world, man up for Gods sake Edited January 14, 2011 by docholiday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Sarakun Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 I hope you all know OTH and he's not easily offended. I also hope recent posters subscribe to the view that everyone has a right to their view - even if, "by all accounts they are a communist". Enlightenment and an understanding of tolerance doesnt necessarily follow a reading of this thread. Surely a pigeon watch where many dont post for fear of ridicule, or public and unjustified jibe, is not desirable. A bit dissapointing really. Well I think the posts on here have been very tolerant and understanding. OTH can be a tough nut to get through to and has a wonderful knack of getting under peoples skin. His posts are, how can we say, "vibrant" and I for one do click on them when I see them. Was it montefeltro who was good at that too? I like the OTH's on this forum as do many others, judging by the hits. The "fear of ridicule, or public and unjustified jibe" types, will probably have to go to a knitting site as opposed to a culling skinning and gutting kind of site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 Yes we earn £200 for a four hour stint, but it never is four hours its always longer, all the best doc that's a pitiful amount in the grand scheme of things, take a look at some of the pay scales that "management" recieve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsm1968 Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 When your child gets wheeled away to theatre (as mine has several times) the last thing on your mind is weather or not the surgeon is giving the NHS value for money. The answer is clear when the child arrives back and make a 100% recovery I see almost on a daily basis people in all sorts of professions, who take 8hrs wages to do 2 hour work. They don't have any guilt about it, and feel it is some how owed to them. Make them far worse value for money. As the Doc said, "It isn't 4 hour of clock on and fanny about". If it was so easy we would have plenty Medical proffesionals about, but we don't. And I would wager most of us has seen a foreign Doctor/ nurse etc. who are here filling vacancies we can't. BA and firefighters aren't particularly skilled jobs though, rank just up there with tube drivers whose union I could happily stand against a wall and take pot shots at Can I come along? I'll carry your ammo bag And for my tuppence...I wonder how much the guffawing Jemima's at the BBC who 'broke' the story are on? Whatever ridiculous sum it is I can virtually guarantee that they aren't worth it. More than enough and expenses to travel to some arbitary place they feel is appropriate to tell the story from! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docholiday Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 I really am beginning to wonder about the BBC and its morals, I have always supported them and been happy to stand up for the licence fee but the more I see of their behaviour I feel I am wrong doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookiemonsterandmerlin. Posted January 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 I really am beginning to wonder about the BBC and its morals, I have always supported them and been happy to stand up for the licence fee but the more I see of their behaviour I feel I am wrong doc I was signing off this one but your reply has spun me back into action DOC. Your feeling towards the BBC denotes that some of the reporting is incorrect in your eyes. If it is incorrect it would suggest that my posting has stirred up alot of bad feeling towards me because of there incorrect reporting. If thats true I going to sue the ******* its ruined what poor image I had on PW already to zero. Cheers OTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 I was signing off this one but your reply has spun me back into action DOC. Your feeling towards the BBC denotes that some of the reporting is incorrect in your eyes. If it is incorrect it would suggest that my posting has stirred up alot of bad feeling towards me because of there incorrect reporting. If thats true I going to sue the ******* its ruined what poor image I had on PW already to zero. Cheers OTH Oh believe me your "Image" was never that high Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 ...and on that note Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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