TaxiDriver Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 (edited) Was out at the weekend walking some more of a new permission and took my son and his air rifle just to do a bit of plinking at something over the 10 metres that we can manage in the garden. Anyways,as we packed up and walked back to the bus, looked through a hedge into a neighbouring field (also on my permission) a small group of 12-15 Deer. They are a sort of light brown/grey (think old straw maybe) with a darker back ontop, and white rump around the tail. They were just browsing on the plowed field, looked in our direction for a moment, then just carried on browsing the ground and moving slowly across the field. Im thinking Roe maybe ? frustrating thing is, they're safe as I'm still waiting for my FAC and only likely to get .22lr and FAC Air Edited to add : No visible sign of any form of antlers Edited March 8, 2011 by TaxiDriver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 Round our parts it's going to be fallow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 +1 http://www.bds.org.uk/fallow.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scraggoak Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 hi you are probably right alough roe dear do not have a tail as such, the white rump will enlarge when they feel threatned, look on the home page of the stalkingdirectory.co.uk you will see all six species we have in the uk, i understand essex have a fair amount of roe, if you are planning to get into stalking you might like to do a dsc1 course you will learn a great deal about stalking. regards geoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 Was out at the weekend walking some more of a new permission and took my son and his air rifle just to do a bit of plinking at something over the 10 metres that we can manage in the garden. Anyways,as we packed up and walked back to the bus, looked through a hedge into a neighbouring field (also on my permission) a small group of 12-15 Deer. They are a sort of light brown/grey (think old straw maybe) with a darker back ontop, and white rump around the tail. They were just browsing on the plowed field, looked in our direction for a moment, then just carried on browsing the ground and moving slowly across the field. Im thinking Roe maybe ? frustrating thing is, they're safe as I'm still waiting for my FAC and only likely to get .22lr and FAC Air unlikely to be Roe from numbers seen together, unlikely to be Sika from thier behavour on spotting you your desciption is vauge but if you noticed the tails on these deer then they were likely Fallow as suggested Fallow have a longer tail than others and tend to swish it about a fair old bit. Colour of deer is a poor identifying feature generally as many are similar and especially with fallow you get different colouration within them. If you see them again and any pronk off in a series of bounces rather than all run when startled then this is what they are for sure. Have a look on the british deer society website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 I ruled out roe due to the number involved too, possible, but unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vampire Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 +1 for fallow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxiDriver Posted March 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 Was out at the weekend walking some more of a new permission and took my son and his air rifle just to do a bit of plinking at something over the 10 metres that we can manage in the garden. Anyways,as we packed up and walked back to the bus, looked through a hedge into a neighbouring field (also on my permission) a small group of 12-15 Deer. They are a sort of light brown/grey (think old straw maybe) with a darker back ontop, and white rump around the tail. They were just browsing on the plowed field, looked in our direction for a moment, then just carried on browsing the ground and moving slowly across the field. Im thinking Roe maybe ? frustrating thing is, they're safe as I'm still waiting for my FAC and only likely to get .22lr and FAC Air Edited to add : No visible sign of any form of antlers I say tail. I mean where you would expect the tail to be coming from (just above it's rsole) but in reality was nothing more than a stump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 Seems to be heading back toward Roe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 It's a flippin fallow, don't over complicate it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redgum Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 Its not uncommon to see large mixed groups of Roe together on a good bit of feeding in the winter but now springs on the way they will be getting a bit less sociable, more than likely they are fallow in your neck of the woods,they would be all females thus no antlers and in winter pelage they almost have no sign of spots,could even be Melanistic fallow if they are quite dark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxiDriver Posted March 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 Either way...........Do they make for good eating ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redgum Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 Reckon I could taste the differance,next time your out slice a tad off before you jump on the bus and chuck it in the post. Lovely to watch em though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 Personally I find that roe do group in such numbers at this time of year. However I am not close to Essex, by any means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devon Fox Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 Personally I find that roe do group in such numbers at this time of year. However I am not close to Essex, by any means. Often see "groups" of roe here as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verminator69 Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 Personally I find that roe do group in such numbers at this time of year. However I am not close to Essex, by any means. +1 Plenty of big groups of roe up hear at this time of year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strongski Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 roe iv got roe in that number on my shoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 I see Roe everyday of the week round these parts, you would never ever see groups in those sort of numbers, five or six would be a big group. In fact last time I saw 4 Does and and Buck they soon became 3 Does and a Buck - maybe we are just better at managing our populations But all of this is irrelevant if there are no Roe in that area, and the local man suggests there aren't, they are almost certainly Fallow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 I have to giggle. You chaps can debate this all you like, they are fallow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 As Mungler says they will be fallow, this area across to essex does have some big groups about at this time of year. though you'll need to zoom in the first is a doe with a load more in the wood and though not especially helpful the second is a white one but gives you a much closer picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxiDriver Posted March 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 I've spent a while looking at google images, and the photo's of the fallow deer have tails whereas the roe have nothing more than a stump. Think I'm more convinced that what I've seen are Roe deer. Guess my next task/challenge is to get some photo's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 I have to giggle. You chaps can debate this all you like, they are fallow I've spent a while looking at google images, and the photo's of the fallow deer have tails whereas the roe have nothing more than a stump. Think I'm more convinced that what I've seen are Roe deer. Guess my next task/challenge is to get some photo's Looking forward to a slice of pie M ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 have another picture of possibles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 A group of 12-15 Roe would be something quite unique for the South East! They are fallow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 I look forward to the pictures, this could be a 10 pager TaxiDriver just for reference, this is what Roe Does look like round my way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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