Curly87 Posted March 25, 2006 Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 About to write some letters asking farmers for permission to shoot, just need some advice do u think it should be hand writen or typed up?? also do farmers expect this service to be free, or is it best to state ''free of charge'' in the letter?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdev Posted March 25, 2006 Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 (edited) I myself would recommend that you go and meet the Farmer face to face !! Instead of writing letters All the best anyway. BD Edited March 25, 2006 by bigdev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveK Posted March 25, 2006 Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 I myself would recommend that you go meet the Farmer face to face. All the best anyway. BD Agreed. I've been down the letters through doors route and got nothing out of it. Face to face works far better, especially if you see a field being ravaged by birds and point it out to the farmer. Don't go looking like you're expecting to get on (smart but casual) but have the necessaries out of sight in the motor in case he says "get yerself on now". Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curly87 Posted March 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 I agree with this however at present i dont have time to go around visiting lots of farmers, so i thought sending letters is the next best thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted March 25, 2006 Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 however at present i dont have time to go around visiting lots of farmers, dont use this as a negative, this will free you up to target the farms you do want. look for the birds, knock on them doors only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveK Posted March 25, 2006 Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 I agree with this however at present i dont have time to go around visiting lots of farmers, so i thought sending letters is the next best thing Ask yourself the question. If I haven't got time to visit lots of farmers, have i got time to provide a regular service to the ones i get? There's nothing worse than turning up one day and the farmer saying "aint seen you for ages, I've let someone else on" maybe joining NPPC would be a better option for your circumstances?? Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curly87 Posted March 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 Im at uni at mo, so am looking to shoot over the summer mostly plus i will have my car up here at that point, making it easier to get and shoot on land, just did a letter to Loseley Park estate but i think the letter could of been better, just had a letter back saying they are passing it on to the shoot manager who will get in contact with me shortly, but not sure if there are any shooting going Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackthorn Posted March 25, 2006 Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 Im at uni at mo, so am looking to shoot over the summer mostly plus i will have my car up here at that point, making it easier to get and shoot on land, just did a letter to Loseley Park estate but i think the letter could of been better, just had a letter back saying they are passing it on to the shoot manager who will get in contact with me shortly, but not sure if there are any shooting going best of luck kid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 I agree with this however at present i dont have time to go around visiting lots of farmers, so i thought sending letters is the next best thing Use the time you would be using to shoot pigeons (if you had permission) to do your door knocking. I haven't met a Farmer yet who likes "paperwork", its hard enough to get some of them to return a telephone call (until they really know you). You have to work at it. The thing I remember the most when asking someone for anything is, the easiest answer is "No". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 I have to disagree with you all. I sent off 20 letters to local farmers in the yellow pages. I spent a long time putting the letter together and printed it off the computer. I got 2 positive replies straight away, one slightly later and I've just had a farmer knocking on MY door because he lost my phone number, (thats nearly 5 months after I posted the letters). Nothing ventured nothing gained. I've now got about 2000 acres to shoot over and have a great relationship with all the farmers concerned. :thumbs: P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curly87 Posted March 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 Wat i will do then is write letters for now, ill also put in some business cards sort of thing which I can make up with all my details on aswel, then if i hear no reply i can go around knocking on doors. as i said b4 i have already done one letter with one reply within the week, with a maybe you can shoot but at least it wasnt a no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 letters no good go knock on some doors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocksaplenty Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 Landowners like letters Farmers like visits (when they in a good mood) Personally I found success through leaving a card on the notice board of my local farmers suppliers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the pelt man Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 Pedro Strange the Farmer lost your phone number but knows your address, dont ya think. agree with others, door knocking is the only real way to get what you want. The Pelt Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nppulse Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 has anyone got a template letter for ASKING for permission?.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdev Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 Not a letter ? But a Mouth. BD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 Ask yourself the things that will be running around the farmers mind ... Like.... He wants to shoot the summer months......where`s he gonna be when the rapes hit hard/spring drillings..... Another ******* letter......*sound of crumpled paper hitting waste bin* Get some nice clean clothes and a business type card and knock on some doors,like the rest of us do and expect to get calls at 7-30am on a cold February morning when you`ve got a hangover TELLING YOU to get the pigeons shot on the rape. Welcome to pigeon shooting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 Pedro Strange the Farmer lost your phone number but knows your address, dont ya think. Self addressed envelope enclosed with every letter, for some reason he'd kept this but lost the letter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 I bet he used your letter as scrap paper, and kept the envelope intending to use the stamp later. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbd1 Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 I have managed to get three new areas in as many weeks, everytime it has been by seeing the farmer and asking, One was putting bird scarers out so i stoped and said do you need someone to shoot pigeons on here he said yes straight away although he has someone shooting on weekends. The other two took my card and have both contacted me one asking me to do a day for him and the other to check that i was intertested in mid week shooting. I have had many no's as well but i feel asking face to face is the way to go. Neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 Winchester I go one further than your suggestion. L farmers have large scale maps of their land. I have never been refused copies. I colour the boundaries, footpaths, avoidance areas etc. and laminate the map, which is then kept i a file with then written permission. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushty111 Posted March 30, 2006 Report Share Posted March 30, 2006 there is an airgun site with a sample letter that you can chop about a bit and use. ive just got my licence back again after a 15yr absence from the sport, and im currently in the process of draughting up a letter with a shooting permission form attached, i'll send a lot of letters out with self addressed envelopes and knock on doors as im passing farms on my travels, i'll let you know how i get on. the website for the specimen letter isClick here: sample letter and shooting permission good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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