Aggresive Rottweiler

[Boromir]

Its not the ones that growl you want to be worried about its the ones that don't give you or your dog any warning at all you should watch.

 

You can't do much about it if he has it on a lead though, but just keep yours under control IF it is off the lead and attacks.

A staffie latched onto my labs neck last year the only thing I could do was grab both dogs by the scruff of the necks and wait for it to let go in which I kept the staffie by the scruff of the neck lifted it up and put it into the owners arms who was quite happily standing there watching it killing my dog.

Now the adrenaline was kicking in and I went into protection mode I had a huge go at the owner and said things I wouldn't say now and nearly got into a fight with him.

So just beware if something does happen keep your call, a swift blow to the head of the attacking dog should do the trick kicking its body will just make it more angry. That's what I would do anyway if it was a big dog like a rottweiler

[Boromir]

I used to walk past an owner with a huge Akita all the time Gordon R, I was afraid at first but it was so friendly all it wanted to do was play, it was a lovely dog the owner was friendly and dedicated to making sure his dog was good socially.

[fortune82]

At last some sense! Thanks for all the good advice from everyone.

 

The routes I walk my dog along do vary from night to night however we usually bump into this dog at least twice a week wherever we go. As for changing time, I am constrained by work etc so have to walk him in the evening.

 

To be honest I do cack myself when I see the dog pulling a 6 foot bloke along the road! However I do not want to speed up incase this sparks the chase instinct. What also concerns me is the dog is on an extendable lead and is often 5 - 10 metres in front of the bloke on what looks like a very flimsy cord. Last night when we encountered the dog it was half way round a corner with the owner unable to see it properly.

 

Anyway first thing I am doing is contacting the police regarding this dog tomorrow.

 

Thanks for the help.

[Kes]

Hi, We have a rottweiler and you are absolutely correct - many people do not know what these dogs are capable of. He weighs about 56 kilos and is very fit and very fast.

If you own such a dog it has to behave like the best of dogs in publc, otherwise its nothing short of irresponsible.

These dogs can be quite frightening . Ours is a big softy with us but has a territory he will not allow strangers into without real problems. Out with us walking he is very good and completely under control and on a very strong chain - just in case. I always assume people will be frightened of him and consider there response in controlling the dog - hes never off the lead in public. I know what he's capable of since he bit me when I was trying to take a chew off him incorrectly, not his fault but there was a lot of blood from my very punctured finger.

 

I would not be put off your walk but carry a very heavy stick, this will not be lost on the owner.

If the dog attacks yours - go for it with the stick, I would add these dogs wont respond to a tap.

I have done this when my ridgeback was attacked by two labradors 'off the lead' the owner didnt like it but could recognise he could do nothing to stop the attack.

 

The spray suggested is a very good idea - keep it visible and if asked, say you are carrying it because of the dogs behaviour and your concern - I'd go for one of the pepper type.

I would also mention it to your local bobby - you wont be the only one who'se concerned. Better a word on the quiet than a prosecution after someones injured - you, your dog or his !

 

I'm fully on your side in this.

Cheers

Kes

[Good shot?]

How upstanding of you. When a dog which probably weighs 9 stone drags a fuly grown man across the road towards you whilst growling, barking and foaming at the mouth I believe it is a good idea to seek advice on the situation should anything arise in the future.

 

Let me guess...you have four Rottweillers and would trust them with a new born baby an day?

 

As far as I'm concerned this dog is a danger and is uncontrolled as soon as it sees me. If such a dog was to set about me or my dog I would not care if what I did was illegal to be honest.

 

As for small man syndrome, the only people displaying that are the cretans who feel the need to own dogs bred for fighting or defence, time bombs waiting to kill.

 

Totally agree with your comment.Rottys owner totally irresponsible for accepting his dogs behaviour..

Edited April 27, 2011 by Good shot?

[Dirty Harry]

I think you should get a life and grow some balls.

Have a chat to the owner, be a man.

Do you really think the police will be interested in a bloke walking his dog on a lead who has done nothing wrong.

He has not committed any offense and has not done anything to get a dog control order imposed on him.

If you do decide to carry a small sprayer with a noxious stuff in to spray in the dogs face then expect to get arrested and loose your ticket.

 

Harry

[debaser]

I think the chance of the crown getting a conviction under the Dangerous Dogs Act on your evidence is unlikely. Unfortunately although the legislation states that your fear of a bite is enough the police/CPS may not want to go with it.

 

Also be careful regarding the carrying of a spray, if it's noxious to humans you may get done for possession of a offensive weapon.

 

ATB

[fortune82]

I think you should get a life and grow some balls.

Have a chat to the owner, be a man.

Do you really think the police will be interested in a bloke walking his dog on a lead who has done nothing wrong.

He has not committed any offense and has not done anything to get a dog control order imposed on him.

If you do decide to carry a small sprayer with a noxious stuff in to spray in the dogs face then expect to get arrested and loose your ticket.

 

Harry

 

What an amazingly constructive comment! Well done, your wisdom astounds me. Perhaps I would talk to the owner were it not for 9 stone of muscle barking, growling and baring its teeth.

 

Why don't you give this lads father a call and impart some of your intellect on him. I'm sure he will be all ears.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1253896/Boy-5-scalped-Rottweiler-horrendous-unprovoked-attack.html

[fortune82]

I think the chance of the crown getting a conviction under the Dangerous Dogs Act on your evidence is unlikely. Unfortunately although the legislation states that your fear of a bite is enough the police/CPS may not want to go with it.

 

Also be careful regarding the carrying of a spray, if it's noxious to humans you may get done for possession of a offensive weapon.

 

ATB

 

I am not going to carry a spray for exactly this reason. My Father works for the CPS, I am seeking his legal advice on the situation regarding the dog.

[Dirty Harry]

But that's not the same dog is it ?

[39TDS]

My missus carries a can of WD40. A quite innocent and everyday item that has lots of uses.

You won't hear a squeak out of me.

[Bagsy]

 

Why don't you give this lads father a call and impart some of your intellect on him. I'm sure he will be all ears.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1253896/Boy-5-scalped-Rottweiler-horrendous-unprovoked-attack.html

 

Fortune, this is irrelevant unless it's the same dog. As has been said either take another route or speak to the owner about your concerns. It's on a lead and it appears he's at least trying to control it. You won't always avoid him but it's easier if he's aware of your angst, he'll be more inclined to try and avoid you too.

 

It's better to try and resolve a problem before it escalates unnecessarily. If the owner gives you a mouthful then at least you've tried to be civil. In this circumstance don't do anything stupid, swallow your ego and walk away. In answer to your question there's little you can do short of carrying a weapon. A walking/thumb stick could be very useful if used in the right circumstances but why let it get this far?

[fortune82]

It is not irrelevant at all, it merely shows what one of these animals can do when uncontrolled. The dog I encounter regularly is acting in an uncontrolled manner.

 

If you took the time to read my first post you will see I have spoken to the owner about his dog but he seems unconcerned, hence my intial post. I regularly encounter this animal which is overpowering its owner and acting in an aggressive manner.

 

Fair enough people keep large and powerful dogs, the majority realise the potential dangers associated with these breeds and train / socialise their animals accordingly. This owner obviously has little control over his dog and has apparently not socialised it with other dogs or people. We have plenty of posts on here from Rotty owners saying they think this dog and owner is out of order.

 

What annoys me about this forum is the number of threads hi-jacked by know it alls.

 

I simply started by asking if there was anything that could be done to control a large dog IF it was to attack me or my dog.

 

We then get the usual **** from the "grow a set of balls" lot and the "its not aggressive just trying to get to know you" lot.

Thats not what I asked and to be honest I don't really care if people think I need to grow a set. At the end of the day I would not fancy a Rotty attack.

Edited April 27, 2011 by fortune82

[MK38]

I can see your problem, but am unable to offer much help other than whats allready been said.

Those extending leads are bloody useless , especially on a big dog.

The real problem lies with the owner for not having socialised and trained the dog when young, i have allways owned large dogs... German shepards, rottweiler/shepard crosses and pure rottweiler... all have been socialised and trained and are no problem when out walking , but i'm allways aware of what they are capable of, so i tend to watch other dog walkers to see if they have a problem with there dogs which could cause trouble.

 

A strong, stout stick.... prefferably one with a heavy Ball end is all i can advise.

 

More a bad owner problem than breed of dog.

 

dave

[fortune82]

I can see your problem, but am unable to offer much help other than whats allready been said.

Those extending leads are bloody useless , especially on a big dog.

The real problem lies with the owner for not having socialised and trained the dog when young, i have allways owned large dogs... German shepards, rottweiler/shepard crosses and pure rottweiler... all have been socialised and trained and are no problem when out walking , but i'm allways aware of what they are capable of, so i tend to watch other dog walkers to see if they have a problem with there dogs which could cause trouble.

 

A strong, stout stick.... prefferably one with a heavy Ball end is all i can advise.

 

More a bad owner problem than breed of dog.

 

dave

 

Don't get me wrong, I put the blame firmly at the owners door. Rightly or wrongly I would be less concerned if it was say a springer or lab snarling yet I know both could inflict serious injury. I have nothing against large breeds, my friend has an Alsation which is a cracking friendly dog which plays for hours with my Cocker.

[Bagsy]

 

If you took the time to read my first post you will see I have spoken to the owner about his dog but he seems unconcerned, hence my intial post. I regularly encounter this animal which is overpowering its owner and acting in an aggressive manner.

 

 

 

Oh give over. If you took the time to read mine you would have seen a reasoned response along with a possible answer to your question

[gsm1968]

I think the OP is right to be cautious of this dog and I would never suggest approaching it to try prove some theory on animal behaviour, or that he "has a pair".

Too many stories start with "My dog never did it before......"

 

I would also report it in this case, and let those in authority decide what action is needed. At least if/when it does end in tears you have someone to hold accountable.

 

If the OP had been along the lines of "I've been attacked!", all the replies would be "Why didn't you report it when you suspected it was dangerous?"

 

 

 

Any way..........household amonia works a treat on attacking/fighting dogs.

 

Genuine question:Will they prosecute if you have some of that on you? Even if you admit why you are carrying it. Rather than pepper spray, that is a recognised no-no.

[Dirty Harry]

Yes you would be prosecuted. You can also be done for criminal damage to the dog or animal cruelty.

[Gordon R]

fortune82 - I have sympathy with what you say, but the link to the newspaper article was just stupid.

 

I hear what you say about the damage that one particular Rottweiller did, but it wasn't the same dog. Damage can be done by dogs large and small. It added nothing to your cause.

[fortune82]

fortune82 - I have sympathy with what you say, but the link to the newspaper article was just stupid.

 

I hear what you say about the damage that one particular Rottweiller did, but it wasn't the same dog. Damage can be done by dogs large and small. It added nothing to your cause.

 

Point taken.

[UKPoacher]

So fortune you came on here asking advice and when you didn't get what you were hoping for mount a tirade against the bloke giving sound advice. COSD is right on both counts; one the law is basically as he says, and he didn't make it, your MP is responsible for that and secondly, your comments about revenge ought to result in your losing your SGC. You come across as irresponsible and self-important.

 

Some people can't control their dogs whether they are Jack Russels, Staffies or Rotties. If it's a problem walk somewhere else or deal with it as suggested by others. No one here has a magic wand.

[MM]

can you not shoot it with an air rifle?

[Cranfield]

So fortune you came on here asking advice and when you didn't get what you were hoping for mount a tirade against the bloke giving sound advice. COSD is right on both counts; one the law is basically as he says, and he didn't make it, your MP is responsible for that and secondly, your comments about revenge ought to result in your losing your SGC. You come across as irresponsible and self-important.

 

Some people can't control their dogs whether they are Jack Russels, Staffies or Rotties. If it's a problem walk somewhere else or deal with it as suggested by others. No one here has a magic wand.

 

I think this is a very suitable "last word" on the subject.

 

fortune82 has stated that he is getting advice from official sources, so the matter can be closed.