Elmer Fudd. Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 I've recently been experiencing master eye dominance problems. I shoot right handed and until recently never had a problem, but I'm now concious of my left eye taking over and my scores are all over the place. I have to wear prescription glasses anyway (age related unfortunately) and not just for shooting. I have seen the TRUGLO interchangable fibre sights which are supposed to correct eye dominance, but that would mean 3 (1 for each gun) at 20 quid a throw. Another possibility after trawling t'interweb is SHOTSPOT which are actually optical foils which are stuck to the inside of normal specs. Has anyone with a similar problem tried these and if so do they work? http://www.shotspot.co.uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakerboy Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 I've recently been experiencing master eye dominance problems. I shoot right handed and until recently never had a problem, but I'm now concious of my left eye taking over and my scores are all over the place. I have to wear prescription glasses anyway (age related unfortunately) and not just for shooting. I have seen the TRUGLO interchangable fibre sights which are supposed to correct eye dominance, but that would mean 3 (1 for each gun) at 20 quid a throw. Another possibility after trawling t'interweb is SHOTSPOT which are actually optical foils which are stuck to the inside of normal specs. Has anyone with a similar problem tried these and if so do they work? http://www.shotspot.co.uk/ Have a word with a Coach and maybe a lesson it could be £60.00 or there abouts well spent. Are your glasses varifocal? this could be the problem, when did the problem start? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 How old are you? Seems daft but eye dominance in men often changes with age between 50 and 60 i have been told. The gizmos may work for you (they didnt for me but i have been strongly left eye dominant for as long as i can remember) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmer Fudd. Posted October 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 My glasses are single vision not vari or bi-focal and unfortunately I am in the above mentioned age group. :sad1: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 Where in the world are you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mereside Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 hi dont know if this will help but i started to struggle so got one of these things have been great since ,atb wayne http://www.rubysights.co.uk/products/1/6/ruby_original_71mm/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 I've recently been experiencing master eye dominance problems. I shoot right handed and until recently never had a problem, but I'm now concious of my left eye taking over and my scores are all over the place. I have to wear prescription glasses anyway (age related unfortunately) and not just for shooting. I have seen the TRUGLO interchangable fibre sights which are supposed to correct eye dominance, but that would mean 3 (1 for each gun) at 20 quid a throw. Another possibility after trawling t'interweb is SHOTSPOT which are actually optical foils which are stuck to the inside of normal specs. Has anyone with a similar problem tried these and if so do they work? http://www.shotspot.co.uk/ I`ve gone through exactly the same scenario myself!What I know is that the more cast(rh in my case) that my guns have, the less of a problem it is! Straight stocks are much harder to shoot well with,you see a lot of the lh side of the barrels if your not careful! More cast seems to be the answer !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 I`ve gone through exactly the same scenario myself!What I know is that the more cast(rh in my case) that my guns have, the less of a problem it is! Straight stocks are much harder to shoot well with,you see a lot of the lh side of the barrels if your not careful! More cast seems to be the answer !!!! Interesting, did you have the gun fitted prior to the dominance issue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloke Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 I had a couple of lessons for the same problem (right handed, left eye dominance - age related), helped a bit, but every so often got that 'flickering sight picture' - where you see down the left side of the barrel and then down the rib, alternately. Eezyhit style optic sight helped as did squinting/fogging out left eye, but now I have got used to it, I don't see the sight apart from the second the gun comes up to my shoulder :yp: , then I squint my left eye before taking the shot. scores back up to their previous level, now, can't blame the eyes now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregthegreat Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 Morning. I'm an instructor in the Royal Marines and left eye dominance is one of the first things we have to deal with in the early stages of training recruits. We identify lads with left eye dominance and it's usually simply a case of training the right eye to become dominant. We do this with an eye patch worn on the left eye in the spare time (not that they have much). This encourages the right eye to become dominant and eventually it will take over. I would have thought that if you have always been right eye dominant then it wouldn't take long for it to return. Regards, Greg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 Interesting, did you have the gun fitted prior to the dominance issue? Yes,I`ve always had guns altered to suit me in the case of english s/s,however o.u and auto`s generally don`t accomodate much cast off. I can shoot well with either set up but you do sometimes `see` the wrong sight picture without cast. My optician said it`s not that your left eye has become dominant,rather that my left eye focus` at shorter distance! This is all `middle age` related.Oh the joys !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 This encourages the right eye to become dominant and eventually it will take over. I would have thought that if you have always been right eye dominant then it wouldn't take long for it to return. what is the reasoning for making all your trainees right eye dominant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
working dog Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 I use the optical foil that you suggest and it works well for me. Without it I see two ribs at times, see down the left side of the gun. With the foil I get a far better picture. It took a bit of getting used to but was worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 (edited) what is the reasoning for making all your trainees right eye dominant? It may because the SA80 only comes right handed, being a bullpup the empties are ejected right next to your cheek. Edited October 29, 2011 by kyska Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triumphant59 Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 I started with exactly the same problem when I reached 50! Solved the problem using Browning magic dots, little opaque disc's that stick to your specs. I wear varifocals but not for shooting where I wear shooting specs with the patches. If it rains I don't wear the specs just squint my left eye when mounting the gun. My optician said that you should not wear a full patch over your left eye as this detracts from your 3d vision and your ability to judge distance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 (edited) Had the problem for years. If you're sure that that is what the problem actually is and not, say, too low a comb causing it, then I keep an old spare pair of, in my case, aviator glasses, changing the lenses when necessary. A small patch of Tippex in the right place which only blocks the sight of the barrel by the wrong eye when the gun comes into the shoulder cures the problem with no loss of 3D vision beforehand. Edited October 29, 2011 by wymberley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregthegreat Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 It may because the SA80 only comes right handed, being a bullpup the empties are ejected right next to your cheek. Yep, the SA80 can only be fired in the right shoulder otherwise the cocking handle would smack you in the face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 Yep, the SA80 can only be fired in the right shoulder otherwise the cocking handle would smack you in the face. Ah, bad design and most of your left eye Dom trainees would be better shots with the appropriate gear! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
point and shoot Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 Had exactly the same situation. Look on ebay for 'Eye Master' Cheap and they work brilliantly! Les Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timps Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 most of your left eye Dom trainees would be better shots with the appropriate gear! Rubbish, I was right handed left eye dominant I changed my dominance to right eyed. There would be no advantage in me learning to shoot left handed over changing dominance. Once dominance is changed you will shoot just like any right eye dominant shooter. Changing dominance is no disadvantage just as changing shoulders is not, both options cure a problem. To say they would be a better shot if the gun would let them shoot left handed is wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gutty Boots Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 This is actually the first time I've heard of being able to change your own eye dominance, wish I'd heard of it 5/6 years ago when I was spending all my spare time & money learning to shoot off the opposite shoulder! Though I must say, it seems perfectly natural now.( Hope my eyesight doesn't revert back again in old age, lol.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acid House Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 I shot with a chap whos fiberoptic bead was held on with a spring rather than glued so he could change it over to other shotguns. Having said that I have never seen one for sale. I am terribly LHD. so just miss more than most............hey ho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
point and shoot Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 Aren't you all forgetting what ELMER FUDD's origional posting was!? Has anyone - apart from two of us - ever used the shot spot or master eye corrective patches? Well? Les Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 Rubbish, I was right handed left eye dominant I changed my dominance to right eyed. There would be no advantage in me learning to shoot left handed over changing dominance. Once dominance is changed you will shoot just like any right eye dominant shooter. Changing dominance is no disadvantage just as changing shoulders is not, both options cure a problem. To say they would be a better shot if the gun would let them shoot left handed is wrong. If you have 20-20 vision yes, but in many cases the master eye is also the better eye (certainly is in my case) and my uncorrected sight in my master eye is better than corrected sight in none master. Back on topic yes i have along with tru glow beads, vaseline, tipex and black pens, none of them worked for me (but then i am in a different situation of having always had a left master eye despite being Right sided for everything. I changed shoulders and it's the best thing i could have done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmer Fudd. Posted October 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 I use the optical foil that you suggest and it works well for me. Without it I see two ribs at times, see down the left side of the gun. With the foil I get a far better picture. It took a bit of getting used to but was worth it. Had exactly the same situation. Look on ebay for 'Eye Master' Cheap and they work brilliantly! Les Some interesting comments here, but thank you 'working dog' and 'point and shoot' for your positive replies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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