normgun Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 hi every one i am looking at getting a good chop /mitre saw needs to have a deep cut length so thinking sliding models. anyone any advice or suggestions., bin thinking dewalt or Bosch? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 If, for example you are doing skirtings -get a mitre. If its just 90 degree stuff then its a chop saw just pulls out and does not mitre. I have a mitre saw which extends about 6 inches, with an eight inch dia blade, it also has a turn table so it mitres in all directions, suits all my little jobs pergectly. I would however get a good quality saw as the mitre part needs to be accurate, also the arm needs to be robust or you will find the cuts inaccurate as pulling down on the saw will cause it to change the angle of cut. You will also need a blade with around about 40 teeth (8") or the cut edges will be v rough. Try a few out "dry" (- no power) see how they feel setting up for jobs and pulling the blade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shropshire_Lad Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 like the look of this one; http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hitachi-HITC12RSH-C12RSH-Compound-Mitre-Saw-305mm-1600W-240v-/230711332061?pt=UK_Home_Garden_PowerTools_SM&hash=item35b7778cdd not tried one but has a lot going for it. atvb Paul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 i have a bosch sd12 Its a brill piece of kit no problem going through 4x4 inch,you wont need to cut deeper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jef Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 I've had a Dewalt for a few years at work, which is used every day cutting everything from cornice to 9x3 and is faultless. Just changed the bushes last week. The gaffer bought a second one (slightly bigger) again from Dewalt. Very good piece of kit and highly accurate. JF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pheasant Feeder Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 I used to have a Dewalt DW708 a few years ago when I worked for myself, excellent piece of kit allows mitre cuts past 45 deg think it goes to 55 and 60, cuts compound mitres both sides, slides to cut 12x4 timbers and has the ability to set depth of cut easily. Expensive to buy but if you can justify the expense worth every penny. As I only use a chop saw occasionally and for hobby/diy stuff I couldn't jutify it so bought the evolution rage at £150 does nearly as much but not quite, it only cuts to about 46-47 deg mitres and the depth of cut is a faff to set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12borejimbo Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Dewalt DW718 with the Stand. Cracking bit of kit. When I was in Carpentry I had one of these in the back of my Van. Very nice, but not cheap, about £600 but it soon earnt its money back. Did all my roofing with it, nice and chunky and very powerful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8landy Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 I have the Rage Evolution 3, had it now for nearly 4 years. Used it for some major hour projects. Sliding mitre saw Best thing (for me) about this saw is cuts through a varerity of materials...very good if you forget about the odd nail or two in your wood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STOCKY A391 Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Definately Dewalt, if money stretches , and the leg stand is a must . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8landy Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 (edited) Definately Dewalt, if money stretches , Dewalt is just overbadged, overpriced Black and Decker There is nothing wrong with B&D, but dont pay Dewalt prices. My other view is, I would rather buy 10 cheap tools than 1 over priced one. Edited December 14, 2011 by V8landy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pheasant Feeder Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Dewalt is just overbadged, overpriced Black and Decker There is nothing wrong with B&D, but dont pay Dewalt prices. My other view is, I would rather buy 10 cheap tools than 1 over priced one. Sorry mate got to disagree, I'm learning with age that you do get what you pay for, and that rings true with power tools. I'd rather buy the best I can afford and know it won't let me down at 10.30 on a sunday night, even after a few years of hard use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 I have an Evolution Rage, it's OK - ish. I found that it wasn't set up very well from the box, angles were all wrong, but it was adjustable. It's a bit flimsy, but very cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris B123 Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 (edited) Another vote for Dewalt, and as others have said get the extending table stand,pays for itself over and over. Edited December 14, 2011 by Chris B123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfletch Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 As above I use the DeWalt DW712 with there stand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
migster Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 When my son started up his own business i got him a top spec Dewalt, that was 10 years ago, still going strong. Great piece of kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jef Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 Dewalt is just overbadged, overpriced Black and Decker There is nothing wrong with B&D, but dont pay Dewalt prices. My other view is, I would rather buy 10 cheap tools than 1 over priced one. What a lot of ****. Another vote for DW712 with stand. JF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diceman Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 Dewalt is just overbadged, overpriced Black and Decker There is nothing wrong with B&D, but dont pay Dewalt prices. My other view is, I would rather buy 10 cheap tools than 1 over priced one. I would agree for some tools, but not for a mitre saw. A cheap one that doesn't cut straight, doesn't keep it's angles and gets sloppy after a few dozen cuts is worse than useless, you'd be better off with a hand saw and a sharp pencil. There is also quite a difference between, for example, B&D plastic gearboxes and Dewalt metal ones. It's like comparing a Snap-On spanner and a Halfords one. Both will do the job but how well and for how long? It all depends on what you are doing and how often you do it, but the difference between a DIY tool and a professional one can usually be seen in the quality (and speed) of the finished job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canis Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 I would agree for some tools, but not for a mitre saw. A cheap one that doesn't cut straight, doesn't keep it's angles and gets sloppy after a few dozen cuts is worse than useless, you'd be better off with a hand saw and a sharp pencil. There is also quite a difference between, for example, B&D plastic gearboxes and Dewalt metal ones. It's like comparing a Snap-On spanner and a Halfords one. Both will do the job but how well and for how long? It all depends on what you are doing and how often you do it, but the difference between a DIY tool and a professional one can usually be seen in the quality (and speed) of the finished job. Given that halfords bought out Sykes-0pickavant several years ago and for a long time every own brand halfords spanner still had a sykes pickavant logo on it you've probably picked a bad analogy, but the sentiment is one i'd agree with. Trade users should buy the best tools they can afford- buy cheap and you will buy several times over. Remember when in factoring in the costs for the hours work lost when the homebase value brand tool lets you down and you have to leave the job to replace it. for DIYers i would suggest taking a view of the jobs that you will have for a tool and buy quality where you are going to get regular use and lesser quality when you are going to have only very occaisional use. for most that means a good quality battery combi drill and lesser copies of everything else if dewalt, makita and Hilti where simply producing overpriced Cwap they would have gone out of business Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tignme Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 My son and i are in the trade and cannot afford to buy twice. Dewaqlt chop saws and stands. Bosch cordless drivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasons gold Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 Deawalt isn't the best but I have ownded one since 2000 and it is still going strong but the Elu was far better and are still working Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diceman Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 Given that halfords bought out Sykes-0pickavant several years ago and for a long time every own brand halfords spanner still had a sykes pickavant logo on it you've probably picked a bad analogy, but the sentiment is one i'd agree with. Fair do's, I didn't know that. I have a fair number of Halfords branded spanners and I will admit they are good quality. Their "professional" socket ratchets are a load of toss tho, the innards seem to be made of some combination of cheese and balsa wood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 Dewalt is just overbadged, overpriced Black and Decker There is nothing wrong with B&D, but dont pay Dewalt prices. My other view is, I would rather buy 10 cheap tools than 1 over priced one. No mate, far from it, the early dewalt chop saws were in fact rebranded ELU, one of the best designs on the market for years and still popular for a smaller machine, i've still got my big ol' dewalt chopsaw, i think it's a 708L, had it for 12 yrs now and still going, some people rave about makita, they're well made too but i prefer the handle on the dewalt and the less complicated locking mechanism. I do have a small 9" makita saw for smaller stuff as it's easier to carry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
normgun Posted December 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2011 thanks for all the replies guys, think it is going to be the dewalt with stand, cheres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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