cockercas Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 On the way home radio 5 live reported the government have given the go ahead to cull badgers in the fight against TB. Sure someone else will have a link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crob12 Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Its about time they made their mind up, this debate has been going on far too long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 It's been anounced by Caroline Spelman that two trial culls will take place sometime in the New year in "yet to be decided" areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huffhuff Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16183926 Badger culling will be tried out in two areas of England in the new year in an attempt to tackle bovine TB in cattle, the government has said. Environment Secretary Caroline Spelman said a decision would be made after the trials in yet-to-be-decided locations on extending it across the country. "Evidence shows that unless we tackle the disease in badgers we'll never eradicate it in cattle", she told MPs. "We need to stop it spreading, bring it under control and eradicate it." Strong feelings Mrs Spelman said she knew there was "a great strength of feeling on the issue" and realised how much opposition there was to a cull, but action had to be taken before the situation got worse. "We can't escape the fact that the evidence supports the case for the controlled reduction of the badger population in the areas affected by bovine TB," she said. "The impacts of this terrible disease also show us that we need to act now. We cannot keep delaying. Having listened to all sides of the debate, I believe that this approach is the right one to make." Mrs Spelman told the House of Commons that nearly 25,000 cattle were slaughtered in England last year because of bovine TB, and over the next 10 years the cost to the taxpayer was set to reach £1bn. An extra £250,000 would be made available each year for vaccinations but the animals would have to be trapped and caged before a vaccine could be injected. Animal cruelty? Opponents argue that shooting badgers is unnecessary and cruel and that there should be more focus on developing TB vaccines. However Mrs Spelman disagreed, commenting that an oral vaccine was "still years away" and it was impossible to say when it would be available. The government hopes the cull will lead to a 16% reduction in bovine TB. Shadow environment secretary Mary Creagh criticised the plans for their potential costs to farmers, saying that they "depend on farmers hiring people to free shoot badgers at night". The method "had never been scientifically assessed as a way of controlling bovine TB", she added. Opposition groups claim to have gathered 100,000 signatures for petitions opposing the policy, and plans have been announced to mount a legal challenge. Marina Pacheco, from the Mammal Society, said: "The government has based its culling policy on flawed science, while proper research seems to have been disregarded in the lurch towards a policy fix." Mark Jones, of Humane Society International UK, criticised Defra for backing the culls despite "compelling scientific evidence that it will be ineffective, hugely damaging to local populations and cruel". It plans to challenge the trial on the grounds that it breaches an international convention on wildlife conservation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 http://www.farmersguardian.com/home/livestock/spelman-to-give-green-light-to-badger-cull-today/43648.article Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 I'm sure it would be a concern for some of us, but why only tackle Brock? Surely Bambi also crosses multiple farm boundaries carrying the disease. I don't know if other wild animals carry TB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted December 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 They do shoot bambi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redgum Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 why is there so much support for Badgers compared with fox's. Ok the anti fox hunting brigade are always not far away but not in the same scale as the Badger lovers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted December 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Guessing. That general public see badgers as magical enchanted creatures. Because their rarely seen by Joe public. Were as old Charlie is just the ginger dog that gose thru the bins in the night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 I`ll believe it when I see it happen ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traztaz Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Neither Bambie or fox can carry it, that is why! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Neither Bambie or fox can carry it, that is why! Are you absolutely certain about that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted December 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Yes deer can carry TB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 About time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redgum Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Neither Bambie or fox can carry it, that is why! Bambi can carry TB and foot and mouth,foxs can carry Trichinella, rabies and all manner of goodies (thank goodness we are an island eh) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artschool Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 great! this time next year I can have a pair of badger skin slippers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted December 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 If your small you can have a matching badger skin duvet. I saw a badger a couple of months ago lamping. Boy do they move. Very quick animals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albertan_J Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 See badgers regularly in the summer...dead on the road Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted December 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Yer that was the first alive one I've seen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxlock Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 (edited) If your small you can have a matching badger skin duvet. I saw a badger a couple of months ago lamping. Boy do they move. Very quick animals what was the badger lamping Edited December 14, 2011 by boxlock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted December 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Worms and hedgehog I think. It had a red filter on. Apparently it dosent scare the worms back into the ground but still shines the hogs eyes up at distance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxlock Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Worms and hedgehog I think. It had a red filter on. Apparently it dosent scare the worms back into the ground but still shines the hogs eyes up at distance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy198712 Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 humans carry alsorts of deseases and they get killed all the time (across the world) i dont see why badgers should be any differant to foxes ect, they make massive holes, dig up gardens. i mean yh they're nice to look at and not as much as a pest as foxes..... but 25,000 cows that had to be slaughtered..... thats huge! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 Bambi can carry TB and foot and mouth,foxs can carry Trichinella, rabies and all manner of goodies (thank goodness we are an island eh) Sometimes this can be handy. As fox can carry trichinella, they are checked on a frequency basis for it. If wild animals with no preventative vetinary measures in place are free from it, you can be pretty certain our farm animals (pigs) are also. Think the last UK case was in Cornwall in 1955. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crob12 Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 Im afraid the cull is not going to be as simple as the Goverment make out, shooting entire contents of a set would extrememly difficult, plus badgers from other areas will then take over the set, which may cause even more problems for the farmer as it may even lead to bringing TB on to his farm will be interesting to see the outcome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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