chefdon50 Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 I have read all these stories about permissions and ones with as stated, 1000's of acres to shhot on privately Its difficult enough gettting permissions without one person hogging the lot I do not agree with going on someone elses without authority but if a shooter was to ask a farmer and he gave permission and he had already given permission to another person. Surely if there was massess of land, that must be OK. If everyone took the attitude of say 5000 ares per person, then it would mean a handfull of persons getting the lot leaving the rest of us with nothing. Don't get me wrong, I have been fortunate enough to be taken on other persons permissions before now and have never and would never go on without authority. Ot in deed try and take the p___ out of another sportsmans permission. Come on though guys. We can not let one **** spoil it for the rest. For those who know who was the rat, name him and get him banned, for the others like myself scratching for permissions, give us a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 It's up to the land owner who has permission and nobody else. I have around 500 acres to shoot on in 4 different farms and I know that there are others that shoot the land too, I only have 1 small farm where I am the sole shot. Don't get so Hung-up on what others are doing, concentrate on getting a permission by looking for land that you know has a pest problem. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martyn2233 Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 think the op want some one to give him the land that we all work hard for so do me a favor and ask more farmers and stop moaning and yes i have more land then i need is that my fault NO its the farmers fault for not letting anyone on there land apart from me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swiss.tony Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 another thing is the money i spend easy 500 quid a month on shooting and fuel so why should we be made to feel guilty for having lots of land we all do a good job for the farmers or they wood not have us about true me thinks. Plus ill take 50 knock backs for 1 bit of land no 1 said it was easy or every one wood be at it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eccles Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 think the op want some one to give him the land that we all work hard for so do me a favor and ask more farmers and stop moaning and yes i have more land then i need is that my fault NO its the farmers fault for not letting anyone on there land apart from me I'm with you on this one I better not say how much land iv'e got or he'll be more pxxsed off. Take lots of lads shooting though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfletch Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 Its hard when you have no permission but that's life and we have all been there. Im mad at the moment as I have permission but someone has been driving through the fields all over the place so the farmer has blocked off all the entries to the fields so Im without any shooting for a wile Its life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomhw100 Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 thats like saying if you won the lottery you would share it with all of us equally-! alot of people work hard to get and keep permissions myself included, i wouldnt dream of giving them up for someone i know nothing about i know to many people who invite people on shoots then they get all chummy with the farmer/landowner then stab you in the back and go up there all the time ruining it for everyone else. If the ones near you are taken try further a field if you want the shooting that much you will,to be fair i do understand your frustration but thats life... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR1960 Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 Well, with a slightly different slant. I had, until a couple of years ago, 3 permissions that I'd had for donkey's years. I was very happy with my 750 odd acres and my mate and I handled them pretty well. In the space of less than 18 months one died, one sold up and the other changed usage of his land. I wish now I'd taken up the offers I'd had over the years for more land, cos now i've got ****** all!! Oh, and my shooting partner died too....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miserableolgit Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 To the OP: The only thing to do is get out there and start knocking on landowners doors, present yourself well and offer a reliable service and you might just strike it lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
besty57 Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 i can see the ops point of view too.ive been looking for more than 3 years ,but until i get lucky and get a permission.i joined a pigeon syndicate and get plenty of shooting, ok it costs a few bob,but its better than nowt.but i will still keep knocking on doors. atb alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fletcher1234565 Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 I was given permission on some land where others shoot a few months ago. Its quite local to me but took months of driving through to catch the farmer so i could ask him personally rather than on the phone. I did not know others were on there at the time as the fields were blue for weeks, but the farmer pre-warned me that he had other people on their but gave me the benefit of the doubt as his rape was getting hammered. Set up a hide and did my business, half way through the morning, one of the other people who shoot on there turned up as he was just walking round with his gun, concealed himself under a holly bush directly opposite me waiting for passing pigeons. I was approx 50-70 yards away and he did not see me, must have been a good hide i made. After a bit of panic from me and a couple of shouts and whistles he finally realised i was there. Came round and spoke to me and was ok, telling me where to go and how many they were getiing in the previous weeks. So the moral of the story is keep knocking, i know that some people on here get shirty about their permissions, but in reallity not many have their own land, it is the farmers land to give permission to give to whoever he chooses, so keep knocking.You will get 50 answers saying we have someone mate, but someday you will get a yes which may inturn open more doors. Obviously you won't get permission on land where people have been there for years doing a good job week in week out. i have friends that won't let me shoot on their land because of his regulars for years and would never expect anyone to favour me over regulars, but you may get a response saying we have someone but he hasn't been for quite a while come and have a go. Then thats when you do a good job and become the regular to safegaurd it. If all else fails, join a syndicate Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Mule Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 (edited) Father in law turns up one Saturday morning and says: "One of the guys at work has a shotgun and is looking for somewhere to shoot, so I told him you have plenty and would probably be happy to take him out. Would you mind?" Bearing in mind there is a work censor on here and I have had my wrists slapped a few times already, let's just say I declined - 'forcefully'. I then spent the next 30 minutes detailing all the little things I do on my wanders around 'my farms' for the owners, including chasing wayward cows off roads and back into fields - at 4am. Ohhhh, getting close to having a rant here. It took me ages to get what I have now (and I lost some to a **** who did the dirty on me - and know that there are several poachers helping themselves), so sharing or limiting myself to a postage stamp isn't going to be on the cards soon. Edited January 9, 2012 by Alpha Mule Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90bhp Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 Get to know the farmers it's like sales "people buy from people" how often do you buy from junk mail or a door to door sales man ? Get drinking in a rural pub, ask the regulars, ask the landlord. Bit late in the season but volunteer to be a beater on local shoot - then ask the gamekeeper. Once you are in, you are in. I struggled for six months. Then gamekeeper gave me 400 acres of rabbit and fox shooting. Then neighbor, then nursery next door. This year one of their friends contacted me, could I sort out his two farms. So now I have enough ! But he has passed my name to his neighbour - I won't say no. But I shoot with my brother and one other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ550Kevlar Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 i have a lot of permission but it`s shared so by the time you take that into account it`s not as big as you think, also i went after contract farmers, they have their own land plus thousands of other acres, call it a multibuy. keep going and you will get there i`m sure, that or make friends on here, stick with it and perhaps the friendship will pay off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshLamb Posted January 10, 2012 Report Share Posted January 10, 2012 All my permissions are for me to shoot on alone. Landowners wont let others shoot on it, and Im not allowed to take anyone either! I prefer it that way, when Im wandering around in the dark with a gun, I havent got to worry if there might be someone else lurking around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foggy011983 Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 Damn no one tell the op I have two cars and a motorbike our I'm in the **** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chefdon50 Posted January 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 It's up to the land owner who has permission and nobody else. I have around 500 acres to shoot on in 4 different farms and I know that there are others that shoot the land too, I only have 1 small farm where I am the sole shot. Don't get so Hung-up on what others are doing, concentrate on getting a permission by looking for land that you know has a pest problem. Good luck. Thanks for that comment mate I do agree with you I am not getting hung up on lack of shooting. If I wanted more I would knock more. I hold my hand up everytime to those of us who provide a free service to farmers and have some shooting fun to boot. Good luck to all thjose who have responded and I do agree but some of you are taking this out of context. I am fortunate to have been allowed on other shooting permissions and am greatful for what I get and always will take out anyone who wants to come along. I also agree that anyone who just turns up to shoot a permission without speaking to the owner is a rat. Cheers guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanl50 Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 I have four farms that I shoot over, two of them I am not allowed to take anyone and am the sole shooter aside from one of the the farmers friends sometimes does a bit of pigeon shooting in the harvest time, we never clash if I see him there I leave him too it, courtesy dictates, the other two farms I could take someone but its the trust thing, again I am the sole shooter on those farms if I introduced a ******** it would be my reputation gone and the land and farmers talk to each other so you would probably end up losing all the farms so its no contest sadly. Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drumsoldier Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 i can see the ops point of view too.ive been looking for more than 3 years ,but until i get lucky and get a permission.i joined a pigeon syndicate and get plenty of shooting, ok it costs a few bob,but its better than nowt.but i will still keep knocking on doors. atb alan Hi Alan, What local pigeon syndicate did you join mate? .......ps your not the Fireman Alan Best by any chance are you ? Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 I only have two very small permissions one of which is for sole use but the farmer does not grow any rape , I think what the OP was trying to get across was is it ok to ask for permission to shoot when you know someone is already shooting the land. For me there is a difference in who that somebody is ,If I did not know them from adam then I would have no qualms about asking the farmer for permission if however it is being shot by a friend or someone who has been good enough to take you onto a their permission as some do on here then no way would I attempt to gain permission on the same ground as far as I am concerned you dont do the dirty on friends or those that do you a favour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfletch Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 I only have two very small permissions one of which is for sole use but the farmer does not grow any rape , I think what the OP was trying to get across was is it ok to ask for permission to shoot when you know someone is already shooting the land. For me there is a difference in who that somebody is ,If I did not know them from adam then I would have no qualms about asking the farmer for permission if however it is being shot by a friend or someone who has been good enough to take you onto a their permission as some do on here then no way would I attempt to gain permission on the same ground as far as I am concerned you dont do the dirty on friends or those that do you a favour. Well said my man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chefdon50 Posted January 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 I only have two very small permissions one of which is for sole use but the farmer does not grow any rape , I think what the OP was trying to get across was is it ok to ask for permission to shoot when you know someone is already shooting the land. For me there is a difference in who that somebody is ,If I did not know them from adam then I would have no qualms about asking the farmer for permission if however it is being shot by a friend or someone who has been good enough to take you onto a their permission as some do on here then no way would I attempt to gain permission on the same ground as far as I am concerned you dont do the dirty on friends or those that do you a favour. Thanks mate your explanation was far better than my original and I do agree whole heartedly with you This is just what I was trying to say. I do not and never wish to call anyone and any true sportsman Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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