sutty Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 I Went for a walk around my permision the other day and came accross a dead Rabbit, it had not been there long as it was still supple and (apart from being dead) looked fresh It was a young one poss two/three months old. Closer examination ruled out it being shot and there was none of the usual signs of Myxie as such, apart from, that is, watery, frothy, blood coming from its nose. I am hoping you lads are going to tell me that it isn't that awfull Haemoragic Rabbit killer that wipes out colonies without a trace, although i think i am answering my own question here!! Any other ideas lads Regards Sutty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatingisbest Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 Pesticide or another chemical?? I came across a dead rabbit the other day on my permission aswell but this one was in a live catch trap, the landowner wasnt aware that it was in the trap so it wasnt shot, i personally think that it was starved there is no other real reason. It was rotting so i took it out of the trap and placed it to the side, a fox will have it i thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham M Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 It could well have been shot by someone who shouldn’t have been there and had scarpered before he was discovered. I have shot many rabbits with a .22rf and on picking them up couldn’t find a mark on them. No blood or anything was present and it was only when they were skinned that the damage was apparent. Makes you wonder which is worse. VHD or poachers. G.M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teal Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 This won't help much, but I thought it was quite interesting when a keeper told me the other day, that magpies will kill young rabbits. Sometimes working in pairs or gangs they just keep pecking at them, and once the rabbits are blind they step up efforts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 This won't help much, but I thought it was quite interesting when a keeper told me the other day, that magpies will kill young rabbits. Sometimes working in pairs or gangs they just keep pecking at them, and once the rabbits are blind they step up efforts. Yes, i have seen this happen once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutty Posted June 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 Thanks fellas, I checked it over but couldn't find any other marks on it apart from the frothy blood from its nose. what i did forget to mention was that the blood was more pinky than red. Poachers i can deal with,but to be honest we dont have to much trouble with them and i think i would sooner have them than the VHD. I have seen Crows mob young bunnies but never Maggies, Anyway whatever it was i hope it wasn't VHD as its taken me ages to get a bit of decent Rabbit culling. thanks again !! cheers Sutty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 Thanks fellas,I checked it over but couldn't find any other marks on it apart from the frothy blood from its nose. what i did forget to mention was that the blood was more pinky than red. Poachers i can deal with,but to be honest we dont have to much trouble with them and i think i would sooner have them than the VHD. I have seen Crows mob young bunnies but never Maggies, Anyway whatever it was i hope it wasn't VHD as its taken me ages to get a bit of decent Rabbit culling. thanks again !! cheers Sutty Now that you have said it was pinky froth, id say poachers. Frank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curly87 Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 Wat about Liver/Kidney Disease? talking to a guy in our local gun shop, says its getting quite bad now, u can tell if they have got it by white spots on the kidneys or liver, always best to check now i think to see if they have it or not and he also said if they have worms these white lines can be seen on the liver, but its stil ok to eat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackthorn Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 take no chances burn it, poachers or another ****ty disease you don't want it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirky640 Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 stot or weasel maybe dont worry or if you are as basc told me on a course contact local athoritys and let then decide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_seagrave Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 Sounds like a lung problem to me. Pinky, oxgen-rich blood from the nose - could have physical internal damage or some sort of rodent TB? LS (aka that bloke from diagnosis murder) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 Yep its lung blood. Blood from the lower part of the stomach or from the neck/head is dark red and very thick. Most likley the rabbits has a punctured or damaged lung, but dont rule out shooting. As said above, you sometimes cannot see it. I have shot rabbits with the 12bore using 6's, and seen not a mark other then blood from the mouth.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutty Posted June 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2006 Well whatever it was lads its now smoked Rabbit. I chucked it in the Brazier at the farm. Thanks for the replies. And lord seagraves impersonation of **** Van dyke and Quincy lol. (too much afternoon telly lol) cheers Sutty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertie Posted June 11, 2006 Report Share Posted June 11, 2006 Sounds like a lung problem to me. Pinky, oxgen-rich blood from the nose - could have physical internal damage or some sort of rodent TB? LS (aka that bloke from diagnosis murder) I agree i used to work as a knackerman and often picked animals up that had died with pink frothy residue coming from mouth and nose, most times this was a sign that they had died from pneumonia. People often think its a winter desease but this is untrue its all year round in animals. Should you find another cut it open and examine the lungs, you will most probaly find there redder swolen and 3 times normal weight! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 stot or weasel maybe dont worry or if you are as basc told me on a course contact local athoritys and let then decide I am surprised that your Course Organisers think that a Local Authority would be that interested in a wild animal. Does anyone know if they have a statutory obligation to investigate ? Or are we talking about "in an ideal World". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 Can I ask what 'Poachers' is? or have I actually lost the plot here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbob Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 R.H.D. they bleed from the nose and die within 4 hours m8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavman Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 stot or weasel maybe dont worry or if you are as basc told me on a course contact local athoritys and let then decide I am surprised that your Course Organisers think that a Local Authority would be that interested in a wild animal. Does anyone know if they have a statutory obligation to investigate ? Or are we talking about "in an ideal World". I suspect only the likes of RSPCA would take a look and then only if you took it to them, young rabbits have a very high mortality rate and seldom get past the first few months (its a cruel world) I have seen a similar condition in Highlander down the pub when its his round, the things a jock will do to get out of his shout, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirky640 Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 stot or weasel maybe dont worry or if you are as basc told me on a course contact local athoritys and let then decide I am surprised that your Course Organisers think that a Local Authority would be that interested in a wild animal. Does anyone know if they have a statutory obligation to investigate ? Or are we talking about "in an ideal World". I suspect only the likes of RSPCA would take a look and then only if you took it to them, young rabbits have a very high mortality rate and seldom get past the first few months (its a cruel world) I have seen a similar condition in Highlander down the pub when its his round, the things a jock will do to get out of his shout, i think there is a group or body of people that come to see animals for notifyable diseases they did say what they were called at basc course but im thick and have forgoten doh!!!! anyone know???. also i think they only look at larser animals deer etc anyone with more info bring it on!!!! cheers kirky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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