yankeedoodlepigeon Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Hi All. Would it be possible to run a diesel car on wvo filtered and with water removed? or would I have to do other processes to it of course in winter it would need some sort of anti freeze. Thanks Ydp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 (edited) not modern diesels so easily but the old ones you can. You need to remove any animal fat in it as well. Edited January 19, 2012 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokinggun Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 have a watch of this, this guy makes his own fuel during this program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksdad Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 I used to run my old Peugeot 405's on waste oil, I just left the oil for a week to let the animal fat and food bits to sink, then decanted it off and used it! Make sure the car has a Bosch fuel pump, Lucas/Roto aren't strong enough, and don't use neat oil in winter. You can make bio diesel with not much effort, and you can buy preheater kits that use a glowplug to heat the oil/thin it down. Loads of books but try this: http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=zq5oagEkhz8C&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0 Well worth it, it burns better than pump diesel plus its a natural lubricant...the first diesel engines actually ran on peanut oil! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankeedoodlepigeon Posted January 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Thanks for the info I will take a look at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricko Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 When the price of veg oil was low I saw a trolley full of empty veg oil containers in the car park at my local Tescos! They had obviously filled up in the car park! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wy111 Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Don't know about your car, depends on how old it is, but been running my 200tdi Disco on WVO, NOT, Bio, for quite a few years now. If you got the old Lucas or Bosch injector pump and not the modern, common rail injection system, PROBABLY, ok. I get my oil from local pubs and filter it down to 1 micron. In summer, when....err, warm, I can run it on a mix of 20L of oil to 2L of white spirit, now it's winter, I add 20L of normal derv as well. Only setback is, it smells like a chippy, EVERYWHERE Last MOT, the examiner complained, it stank, but flew through emission test Think he had no sense of humour If I were you, I would search for "your vehicle" + WVO on google and see what comes up, BEFORE you even try If you can use it, be ready with a few new fuel filters, as WVO scours the **** out of the tank and fuel lines for a while, then ok. Better economy and better performance can be the result Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster George Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 (edited) Been running all my cars and vans on bio and oil for over 6 years but make sure you read up on it first and dont cut corners more tOo it than u think Edited January 19, 2012 by Rooster George Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_evil Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 I fill up in the car parks get so many odd looks from people as you dump 3L bottles down the hatch Make sure you get the ones without anti foaming agents if you buy new Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadkill Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 I got told I couldn't do it with my vauxhall astra estate 2ltr turbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 These days with the price of cooking oil on the supermarket shelf there is no price advantage. Years ago there used to be enough price difference to make it worth buying the stuff. If you can find a source of waste oil fair enough but there are lots of people after it I would imagine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan-250 Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 I have a 1.7 isuzu astra, old 1 and run that on 50/50 in the summer big price advantage for me I get if for 30pence a litre. Filtered and ready to go straight in the tank. Looking at getting a truck and fully converting it, with twin tanks and heater set up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson_tom Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 I have just bought and waiting delivery of a bio diesel processing set up, along with all the chemicals etc. The fuel quality is as good as a forecourt so I will be running it in my 2.0 td mazda 6 and the freelander td4. It can do about 100 litres at a time and only takes about an hour after you have left it too settle. As for running wvo with just being filtered there is a two tank system which seems to work very well, in efffect you have a small tank in your boot of diesel to start and stop on and your main tank is wvo. It needs preheaters and things but worth the effort. Also it stops wvo sitting in your fuel line and diesel pump which is what eats them away. The other option is just mix it with diesel 50.50 or what ever ration you want depending on how cold it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 I fill up in the car parks get so many odd looks from people as you dump 3L bottles down the hatch Make sure you get the ones without anti foaming agents if you buy new I used to run my old Pug on super market sun flower oil at 70 pence a litre, it wasnt long before the price went to over a £1 a litre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_evil Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 Still cheaper than standard derv :( £1.40.9 PL :o Although Texaco stuff seems to work well in my landy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankeedoodlepigeon Posted January 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 I think I will try and go round a few fish and chip shops round here and ask to collect used oil but I think they will already have someone collecting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 try not to pay for the oil,offer free collection,free waste transfer note etc there is a great website ill post the link later its on my other computer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankeedoodlepigeon Posted January 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 Thanks I will take a look at that when you post it I am thinking of getting a freelander as my signum will not run bio fuels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 I bought a Shogun mainly because it can run on almost anything that you can put in the tank. Wast veg oil filtered to 1 micron thinned with regular unleaded gasoline when its cold, Straight veg oil from cash and carry (still less than £1 per ltr.) Acetone (nail polish remover) to boost octaine rating. Older diesels OK newer diesels fussy on fuel you may be able to introduce them to Bio slowly. Theres lots of info out there, seek and ye shall find. All the best Paladin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson_tom Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 there is a big difference between bio diesel and wvo, do not get them confused. Virtually any modern car will run on bio diesel many will not run on unprocessed wvo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 sure i was reading somewhere the greedy goverment had introduce a tax on it if you produced a certain amount?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedwards1966 Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 sure i was reading somewhere the greedy goverment had introduce a tax on it if you produced a certain amount?? I believe you have to pay tax over 2500 litres, which is enough to make a big saving first and enough for most people anyway. Of course, the day you get discovered using it is the day you started, so it's 2500 litres per year from when they find out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankeedoodlepigeon Posted January 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 My Signum won't run on it as I have looked on various forums, rubbish pump and common rail a bad combination according to what I have read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mongrel- Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 Most modern diesels will run on biodiesel but not veg oil, most older diesels will run on either. There are issues with veg oil, not least being ring gumming, caused by burning oil in a cold engine. The resolution to this is a twin tank system and heat exchanger to maintain viscosity when it gets cold! There's loads of info out there, try http://www.vegetableoildiesel.co.uk, stacks of info. I've run my Pajero on WVO for a while now but you MUST ensure it's filtered well and de-watered. I'm about to start producing Bio diesel, for £400 you can get set up and be producing bio diesel for as little as 40p a litre. Won't take long to get your money back if you do significant mileage. I have to laugh at those that keep saying "With the price of veg oil in the shops, it's just not worth it"! I can get oil at £1.00 a litre, that's 40p or more a litre less than diesel, and yet these are probably the same people who travel 5 miles to fill up for 2p a litre less than locally! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson_tom Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 If you do start using it as well your car will come to a spluttering hault as the oil acts as a detergent and cleans your diesel tank and fuel lines and all this crude blocks the filters. By sounds of it normally takes 2 or 3 filter changes but after that should be all good. The 2500 is a pointless figure as there is no requirement to keep records so they will never prove you have done more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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