Fatcatsplat Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 Doesn't make sense to me - no reason whatsoever that a bird could not be killed and a rabbit could, providing both are within the effective range of calibre and cartridge choice Doesn't make sense to me either - The rabbits might be running or sitting, but they go down - As soon as i use it on anything winged, it all goes Pete Tong. He may mean rabbits sit still don't no of a bird on the quarry list that hoovers. Why on earth would you put something that hoovers on the quarry list? My missus would pay good money for something like that!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peathag Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 Doesn't make sense to me either - The rabbits might be running or sitting, but they go down - As soon as i use it on anything winged, it all goes Pete Tong. I hear you - I guess we can only go off our own experiences at the end of the day - incidently I saw a nice little O/U .410 (actually it was full size rather than junior) in a gunshop the other day, I can't remember the make but it was from Turkey but not a Yildiz and it appeared to be a cracking gun for £499 providing it doesn't fall to bits like some products from turkey. Why on earth would you put something that hoovers on the quarry list? My missus would pay good money for something like that!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangerous Brian Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 Just started getting into the reloading side of the .410 and from what I have read it is the usual balance between pellet size and pattern but more sensitive to changes as you haven't got as many pellets to play with. The general advice seems to be that if you want to put a heavy load (19-21g) through the .410 drop the speed down a bit to get the pattern to tighten (in a fixed choke)and don't go for too large a pellet. With a bit of fiddling about you can get a usable pattern with enough energy to do the business at 30- 35yds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pstenson123 Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 i'll have 1 of them birds that hoovers,has anybody got 1 yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ550Kevlar Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 How much are .410 carts? i`ve been looking more and more at buying one as it would make a handy tool on some of my smaller fields with houses around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAsh Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 (edited) Well from my findings Yildiz o/u 410 for three months, its a great gun for both skeet and sporting clays using 14 gram no 9's, hit a few midi's at about 30-35metres As many owners get 90+/100 in skeet, makes you wonder why they don't ban 12 gauge an replace it by 410 :D Edited January 27, 2012 by ChrisAsh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedwards1966 Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 How much are .410 carts? i`ve been looking more and more at buying one as it would make a handy tool on some of my smaller fields with houses around. I buy them at around £6.5 per box of 14/15 gram loads, 2.5 inch 5-9 shot. Not that bad really, though a lot for what they are, they ought to be a fraction of the price of a 12 bore! I understand reloading is the best way forward for those able to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 Same as a 12g if the patterns in the right place Best answer yet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike525steel Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 Don't go to big on shot size If you need to go over 6's. Go up a gun size. And you have got to be a good shot. End of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimfireboy Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 He may mean rabbits sit still don't no of a bird on the quarry list that hoovers. My bird hoovers the house,that's why I married her! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackinbox99 Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 My bird hoovers the house,that's why I married her! Wish mine did, it only seems to know where the sofa & chocolates are. :( With regards to the .410, it does have its place. I know guys who use them for clays, and my father & uncles grew up hunting with them around the farms where if they didnt get a kill they wouldnt have had any tea. I find in the main i dont seem to use my .410`s as much as i thought i would, but do enjoy using them occasionally. As others have said id only use them up to 25 yards max. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakerboy Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 (edited) I have a 9mm garden gun, sometimes called a No.3 I believe, now what is the range on this gun? and what are it's uses, other than taking up a space in the cupboard : Edited February 23, 2012 by bakerboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpowder Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 I have a 9mm garden gun, sometimes called a No.3 I believe, now what is the range on this gun? and what are it's uses, other than taking up a space in the cupboard : As it says garden gun, small fry like bullfincheswhich picked of fruit blossoms were victims. Rats indoors in sheds and barns, rabbits if they were close enough which would be 10 to 15 yards maximum. Some of the old Eley copper headed cartridges were dangerous indoors and had potential fire risk as the paper case could or perhaps was supposed to detach and travel up the barrel, sometimes still smouldering, only the copper head being ejected. Having said that I shot my first moving quarry with a 9mm over 50 years ago, it happend to be a rather large hare which sprang from its form before I could shoot it sitting and surprises surprise it toppled over stone dead to my shot. Blackpowder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodit Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 (edited) With a lot of fixed choke .410's they are over choked as in super full to try and gain a little more distance. I have a little Falco .410 and that is full+ and full+ choked and I have broken clays out to about 25, 26 meters. Please note I have also hit them and knocked them off course but not broken them Read "Because its there! Climbing the North Face of the .410" by Tim Woodhouse Great book tells you all you ever wanted to know (and stuff you didnt) about the .410 and loads of reloading information. Sodit (missed again) Edited February 23, 2012 by sodit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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