.410 umbrella

[semiautolee]

just came across this on a website, first one iv seen it's in good condition aswell for its age

 

details

 

 

The 410 MAGNUM UMBRELLA SHOTGUN

 

~ Once in a lifetime an opportunity to own something really special comes your way ~

 

~ If you miss this opportunity, will you ever forgive yourself ? ~

 

This rare umbrella shotgun was made by J.Wilson in 1985, as we have already mentioned, it is in 410 bore with a 3" magnum chamber. Exceptional quality carved horn handle, horn trompion, gilt mounts, fully functioning and in 1st class condition. Offers invited over £2000-00

 

~ The handle, gilt mount, trigger & chamber ~

 

~ Is there another one like this on the Internet ? or anywhere in the world ? ~

Edited February 1, 2012 by semiautolee

[Jolly]

maybe some issues with it being a concealed weapon

[semiautolee]

maybe some issues with it being a concealed weapon

 

 

definately rare

[Miroku_Dave]

I want one!!!!

[Jolly]

me too

[the enigma]

You'd be a dapper looking chap with that in a pigeon hide.

[M.I.A]

ive heard of them before but never seen one

 

Could you legally own that on a sgc or fac?

[Bloke]

"Firearms Law - Guidance to the Police, 2002,"

- in the section entitled "Prohibited Weapons", States:

 

 

3.11 Category (ix) was introduced primarily

to control walking stick shot guns, but covers

any firearm disguised as something else,

 

So there you go, buy one, get jail free!

Edited February 1, 2012 by Bloke

[Steel100]

Yes you ca have one, as part of a collection, you cannot however, take it out in public!

 

You need to apply for a variation to your Shotgun certificate, to collect walking stick / umbrella shotguns.

 

Andy

[Billy.]

You'd have to have it on a section 5 licence, as far as I'm aware.

[Matt Gould]

seen these before, very good poachers tools back in the day

[pigeon controller]

My Grandfather had a walking stick .410 and he used get me to fetch it and he would show me how to load it. He died when I was 9 and when my Dad and Uncle cleared the house it had gone. They say that they never saw it., shame I would hve loved to have that now.

[kent]

BASC sucessfully gave defence in court on this issue a year or two ago did they not?

[guinty1]

This item is subject to section 5(1A)(a)of the 1968 firearms act and is a prohibited weapon,(firearm diguised as another object)possession of this item can get you five years in one of Her Majesties hotels.

Edited February 1, 2012 by guinty1

[Steel100]

The law is crystal clear:

 

11.15 It should be noted that chief officers of

police are not empowered (as they are with

firearm certificates) to impose any conditions

of their own on shot gun certificates. The

only exception to this is in relation to section

5(5) of the 1998 Rules and section 5A(3) of

the 1968 Act (as amended). This provides

that when a person wishes to acquire a shot

gun disguised as another object for the

purpose of it being kept or exhibited as part

of a collection, the certificate shall be subject

to an additional condition restricting the use

of that shot gun to use for that purpose. The

most common shot gun of this kind will be

the walking-stick shot gun.

 

So, yes you CAN have walking stick and umbrella shot guns, as detailed in Guidance. I'm a member of a collectors organisation (Historical Breechloading Smallarms Association - HBSA) and quite a lot our members collect walking stick and umbrella shotguns.

 

If you want to see some on display visit the HBSA stand at Chatsworth Country Fair in August.

 

Kind regards

 

Andy

[tomhw100]

You'd be a dapper looking chap with that in a pigeon hide.

 

that looks unreal imagine pulling that out down the pub

[coneyhunter]

i was under the impression these were a section 5 firearm

[jackinbox99]

You'd be a dapper looking chap with that in a pigeon hide.

 

Brilliant!! Ive seen the walking stick .410`s before and toyed with the idea of collecting one, but this umbrella one looks cracking.

[welshwarrior]

I think it would work well in the beating line and you could wipe the eye of the odd back gun