bullet1747 Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 dont know if its been done before sorry if so,if the cops dont pass the land for fac as they say its not safe (not happened just thinking)could some one with an open ticket shoot it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveo26 Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 yep, but if plod think its unsafe it probably is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eccles Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 Yes :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docholiday Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 yep, but if plod think its unsafe it probably is Whilst that is a generally good rule to follow, some of the people involved dont know their ***** from there elbows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet1747 Posted February 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 if plod say no then i think open tickets shouldnt shoot it just my thoughts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
storme37 Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 if something goes wrong and plod have said its a no no i would not want to be the shooter lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckyshot Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 if plod say no then i think open tickets shouldnt shoot it just my thoughts Shoot more ground and you will soon change your mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbuss Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 Plenty of pest controllers shoot foxes in postage stamp sized urban gardens with moderated .22 rimfires. These gardens would never get cleared by a police land check in a million years, yet the pesties shoot legally and safely on an open ticket. Should they stop? There's no such thing as safe or unsafe land, only a safe or unsafe shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 Plenty of pest controllers shoot foxes in postage stamp sized urban gardens with moderated .22 rimfires. These gardens would never get cleared by a police land check in a million years, yet the pesties shoot legally and safely on an open ticket. Should they stop? There's no such thing as safe or unsafe land, only a safe or unsafe shot. I have been on a site of 36,000-38,000 acres today, it's that big nobody is quite sure. It doesn't matter how big a piece of land is, it has a boundary. NO land is SAFE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 yep, but if plod think its unsafe it probably is Sorry chap but that isn't the case, I could walk on to just about ANY piece of land a region may not deem suitable for a calibre and show you somewhere or some way to shoot safely on it. Plod, as you call them, only have any interest in land clearance for INNEXPERIENCED shooters, and will potentially be hard on land, if they feel there are, for example, only 10% safe shots possible, they will almost certainly NOT pass it. What that means is 10% of shots are safe! What they are saying in simple terms is ...you don't have the experience to make the call on what is safe, so you are not shooting there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 if plod say no then i think open tickets shouldnt shoot it just my thoughts Shoot more ground and you will soon change your mind. I'm struggling to understand a comment like that from any experienced Unrestricted (Open) FAC Field shooter bullet1747. So let me ask, do you have a FAC at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchieboy Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 It is my understanding that with an open ticket then you as the shooter are considered experienced enough to evaluate a piece of land and to decide what is safe and what is unsafe, and even then it is up to you to assess every single shot before taking the shot. If I were invited to shoot on a piece of land that I knew the police had refused to pass I would want to look very carefully as to why it had been deemed "unsuitable" before I even took a rifle out of a slip! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ550Kevlar Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 This is a six of one half a dozen of the other thread, personally speaking i have an open licence and have never asked if land is cleared or not, i don`t take chances and if there is even a remote chance of it going FUBAR i walk away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apache Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 As has been said land is not intrinsically safe or unsafe. I has some land cleared from .22rf upto .308 over the phone! (just for base permission, have open ticket) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet1747 Posted February 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 I'm struggling to understand a comment like that from any experienced Unrestricted (Open) FAC Field shooter bullet1747. So let me ask, do you have a FAC at all? never said i had my fac was just asking a question, as for experiance in fire arms i have had my fair share of shooting the weapons and was safe enough to defend my country Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 never said i had my fac was just asking a question, as for experiance in fire arms i have had my fair share of shooting the weapons and was safe enough to defend my country How long did it take to get afghanistan surveyed by your FEO? I don't know what to make of you Dekers, everything you answer is antagonistic, like you're omnipotent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 My FEO (who shoots) advised me that if a plot of land has only one safe shot position then he won't pass the land. That's understandable enough for me. He has to take into consideration that another first time out shooter would be cleared to shoot there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 How long did it take to get afghanistan surveyed by your FEO? I don't know what to make of you Dekers, everything you answer is antagonistic, like you're omnipotent. Ok, I could ignore that or make a response, but to hopefully clear the air.... The reality is I can't say that I ever set out to be antagonistic, I just tend to look at things and go straight to the meat, rather than wonder around the edges. What you will note, is that I very very very very rarely get involved in personal insults, which many here resort to with ease, I keep to searching questions! I don't think a lot of people are used to the direct approach! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet1747 Posted February 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 How long did it take to get afghanistan surveyed by your FEO? wouldnt go said there was no safe back stop in the dessert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveo26 Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 I don't know what to make of you Dekers, everything you answer is antagonistic, like you're omnipotent. I know just what you mean, I'll tell you what i think Must be boring being right and knowing everything all the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 i like dekers approach on the forum. im a man, i dont read between the lines. direct is the way forward, keep it up dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveo26 Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 i like dekers approach on the forum. im a man, i dont read between the lines. direct is the way forward, keep it up dekers Rent a room Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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