cockercas Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 im sending off my variation to get my buy/possess increased. i currently have buy 100 store 120 .243, this was issued before i reloaded. im thinking of buy 500 store 800. any good or should i ask for more/less? seen as im wasting ink on the form im putting in for a .22 hornet. i plan to reload so shall i ask for the same allowance? another 500/800 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta28g Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 They OK'd me Buy 100 Hold 200 For a 6.5x55 for reloading. 800 is a hell of a lot to hold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted February 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 i dont think so, rfd has just got me 100 vmax and 100 bergers in. i still have some v-max left and if i dont get on with the bergers then they get put to the back of the cabinet till i find somone who wants them, then i have to buy another 100 of a different brand to test Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta28g Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 Well i am only gonna be loading one load for now, so it suits me. Maybe there should be a a FAC condition for reloaders that you can hold as many component parts as you want, but only a certain number of complete rounds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deershooter Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 You should not have a problem with reloading I have a .2506,.308,.223 .300 when you reload what happens when you want to use a different bullet weight? say 125 grain for Roe with the .308 150 grain for Fallow and 180 grain for Red, therefore you need 300 on your ticket to load 3 as you can only buy them in 50 or 100 boxes with the .223 I get boxes of 500 My problem is living in Grantham its a 30 mile trip each way just to find some one who sells center fire ammo I usually only buy about 3 times a year The Newark show the game fair and possibly when traveling on holiday out of a box of heads I normally use 35% on ammo testing 50% for sporting use the other 15% for zero checking Send in a letter asking for what you want just justify it Happy shooting Deershooter :good: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted February 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 thats my thinking deershooter. think 500/800 is a good number to ask for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apache Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 Only assembled rounds count and expanding heads, you can have as many target heads as you want. 2.9 “Ammunition” means ammunition for any firearm and includes grenades, bombs and other like missiles whether capable of use with a firearm or not, and also includes prohibited ammunition. It will be noted that the definition of ammunition does not include ingredients and components of ammunition; it is only assembled ammunition that is controlled under the Act, not component parts. Empty cartridge cases, for example, are not “ammunition”. The only exception to this is the missiles for ammunition prohibited under section 5 of the 1968 Act, for example expanding or armourpiercing bullets. Such missiles are themselves regarded as “ammunition” and are subject to control accordingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 Buy 500 store 800 .243 what are you shooting the deer with a machine gun or what Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deershooter Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 Whats wrong with that depends how much shooting you do go to Bisley for a long week end you can get through 300 rounds Proper ammo testing could take up 200 rounds Deershooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Essex Hunter Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 They OK'd me Buy 100 Hold 200 For a 6.5x55 for reloading. 800 is a hell of a lot to hold. For my .243 hold 250 buy 200 TEH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wy111 Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 (edited) For my .243, I've have, buy 800, hold 1000 for years. I've virtually always reloaded, but this was allocated, not asked for, on my first ever FAC application, as I mentioned reloading, many moons ago. BUT, again, this is N. Yorks police, who have always been excellent Edited February 18, 2012 by wy111 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 I've got what I need and more importantly what I can justify. ALL my rimfires and my .223 are 1000 buy and 1200 hold. My 243 and .308 are 500 buy and 600 hold. I don't reload, and those numbers work for me and my region because of what I use! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 im sending off my variation to get my buy/possess increased. i currently have buy 100 store 120 .243, this was issued before i reloaded. im thinking of buy 500 store 800. any good or should i ask for more/less? seen as im wasting ink on the form im putting in for a .22 hornet. i plan to reload so shall i ask for the same allowance? another 500/800 Depends i get 500 to buy 600 to keep on all my c/fires. I have pushed for 1000 which is what i had on my comp guns but they just wont go for it in expanding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted February 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 Buy 500 store 800 .243 what are you shooting the deer with a machine gun or what do you understand that i am asking about bullets, not cartridges?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta28g Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 Expanding bullet heads are classified the same as compete cartridges in the eyes of the law though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deputy dog Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 I asked for to buy 200 hold 300 .243. I got buy 100 and hold 160. Which looking at things in perspective, is ample amount of ammo for that caliber. I can't see me shooting all those bullets in one go, even on the busiest of days shooting. DD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckyshot Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 If you can justify them then I dont see why not, although I have buy 200 hold 300 for my 243 (suits MY needs) which is used from rabbits right through to deer and 300 bullets take some getting through so long as you are not load developing or range shooting. My mate has buy 500 hold 600 for his 223 and he dosent reload so I cant see a problem with you getting at least that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted February 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 Yes I know that. But they look different on me storing bullets then storing cartridges. I've just spoken to a guy. He 100% knows what he is doing and said 500/600 will be good enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 It seems little point in restricting peoples ammo holding ability. If you are going to go off the rails you are not going to get through that many and the damage you could do with 100 is more than enough so from a "public interest" point of of view so how is a few hunderd more going to make that much difference? however the big limitation is your ammo safe. If you are asking for more than you can get in your safe they have a good reason to query where you are going to keep the rest. two or three calibres on a hundred of each and your safe is full. They work on the assumption that you will be holding the max in each calibre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted February 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 It seems little point in restricting peoples ammo holding ability. If you are going to go off the rails you are not going to get through that many and the damage you could do with 100 is more than enough so from a "public interest" point of of view so how is a few hunderd more going to make that much difference? however the big limitation is your ammo safe. If you are asking for more than you can get in your safe they have a good reason to query where you are going to keep the rest. two or three calibres on a hundred of each and your safe is full. They work on the assumption that you will be holding the max in each calibre. i have two safes, one would take 1000 .243 and the other would hold 3000+ .243 so thats no problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 Buy 500 store 800 .243 what are you shooting the deer with a machine gun or what You've missed the OP's point Blackbird, he's going to reload. Since expanding ammo counts on your Cert, & heads come in 50's & 100's, the 500 is easily made up especially on load development. I had this issue on my last renewal, took some explaining to the FLO, who eventually gave me 500 to buy, & 600 to hold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redgum Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 As has been said earlier, just be realistic, I started off with buy 200 and hold 250 for 243 then I started reloading and found this not enough for the simple reason whenever I ran out of sierras they became like hens teeth to find. I sent in my variation form along with a letter of explanation and had it changed to 500 to buy and 600 to hold for 243 and 200 to buy and 400 to hold for 308. This suits my requirements for both calibres and reflects on what I would probably get through in a year,just be realistic but remember, you may not always be able to get heads, supplies fluctate and its easier to stick with what works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooter Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 All my calibers are minimum buy 500 hold 600. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2202vinny Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 hi unless you are a target shooter you will always struggle a little join a club you will shoot more thus need more!! and learn a hell of a lot from all the years of experience the club members have to offer especialy with a 223 and wind etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bk Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 It would be perfect if you just limited the number of rounds to hold and not the number of bullets! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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