tomhw100 Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 I've Been arguing with two people on another post who believe its acceptable to shoot a hmr and a 243 you heard right a 243 at stuff in trees with an apparently'safe' backdrop.I think itts outrageous ad damn right dangerous,what if you missed or skimmed the tree or branch...feos would be spitting blood! Your views please chaps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajm1979 Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 I cant think of a situation that I would ever do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotHunter96 Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 its people like that that make things worse for the rest of us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 yet another thread trying to start an argument yet another thread trying to start a argument! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sako751sg Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 Only if it was at a baboon who was being particularly pesky.I saw a chap called Elmer Fudd shoot at stuff in trees in a documentary that used to be screened when i was young and although he rarely hit anything,his bullets didnt cause much problems so i dont see a problem.If the trees were protected or oot of season however,imo it would be dispicable behaviour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotHunter96 Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 yet another thread trying to start an argument yet another thread trying to start a argument! im not trying to start an argument im just saying that when people do stupid things like shooting rifles into trees then accidents happen and it hardens peoples opinions on our sport and then people go on about banning firearms. i am in no way trying to start an argument merely stating my opinion everyone else is free to make theres Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 So shooting within woodland is wrong? That makes just about every stalker in the country evil according to you? Posts like this show just how little experience some people have e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex301286 Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 So shooting within woodland is wrong? That makes just about every stalker in the country evil according to you? Posts like this show just how little experience some people have e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 yet another thread trying to start an argument yet another thread trying to start a argument! So shooting within woodland is wrong? That makes just about every stalker in the country evil according to you? Posts like this show just how little experience some people have There are plenty of ways of shooting into trees perfectly safely, I have several sites where I can shoot into the top of trees and still be pointing at the ground, etc etc etc.. Some people here open their mouths and jump on the bandwagon to quickly! Situations and experience! ATB! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 Precisely I've even shot squirrels from trees with the .243 perfectly safely before. There is a bandwagon people like to jump on round here without actually having any idea at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 Precisely I've even shot squirrels from trees with the .243 perfectly safely before. There is a bandwagon people like to jump on round here without actually having any idea at all hit the nail on the head mate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomhw100 Posted February 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 In the level is fine..not inexperienced at all,shooting in the tops of trees is not on in my. Book obviously people would disagree as usual I'm bit starting an argument I'm debating,if it was ok you guys who do it wouldn't min your fao knowing then would you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 if your stood on the top if a hill and the tree is at the bottom giving you a safe backstop of the ground directley behind then surely that is a safe shot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sako751sg Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 if your stood on the top if a hill and the tree is at the bottom giving you a safe backstop of the ground directley behind then surely that is a safe shot? Please refrain from using facts on such threads as it devalues the comedy value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 As one of the buffoons you refer to, who incidentally had an fac for 50 years, I take it quite personally that you start a thread with the sole purpose of trying to make George H and me appear to be complete idiots. It appears to me that you are a rather inexperienced young shooter and one of a growing band of posters who take delight in enhancing your own lack of self esteem by deriding others. I would direct you back to the thread you are talking about and would suggest you re read every post and use your rather limited knowledge of our language to try and understand what was being said. If you have difficulty in understanding the written word, something I blame your teachers for not yourself, I would suggest you ask an adult to help you out. As has been pointed out to you in the thread in question, although I forgive you for your limited knowledge, this green and pleasant land of ours has a surprising number of very deep valleys in which, surprise, surprise, trees happen to grow. Now again, another surprise for you, a ruddy great hill or mountain is considered to be rather a good backstop. No need to apologise chap, I forgive you. Poor schooling is to blame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39TDS Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 No need to apologise chap, I forgive you. Poor schooling is to blame. Teachers can only work with what they are given Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomhw100 Posted February 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 I'm not saying down into valleys or what ever If you stand under a tree and shoot up into it with a 243 your a **** as far as I'm concerned,you are twisting my words I never said shooting at ground level was wrong did I,my English is fine thankyou I'm writing on my. Mobile as I'm sitting in a hide bored,why does it show I'm inexperienced? I'm talking sense. Believe me mate I don't take delight in dressing down old boys who are stuck in there ways if you had a fac for 50 years you should know better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.I.A Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 Please refrain from using facts on such threads as it devalues the comedy value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beretta88 Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 its people like that that make things worse for the rest of us couldnt agree more ...... if theres not a clear shot on dont take the shot common sencse has to come in here at least for the welfare of the quarry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 To be fair, the post you are talking about was asking if It's ok to lamp rooks. When I read it (at 2.30am after a skin-full) I took it as though he was shooting an HMR up into the trees with no backstop. I'm prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt as I'm sure he was shooting safely. But I still think It's best to use a shotgun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 I'm not saying down into valleys or what ever If you stand under a tree and shoot up into it with a 243 your a **** as far as I'm concerned,you are twisting my words I never said shooting at ground level was wrong did I,my English is fine thankyou I'm writing on my. Mobile as I'm sitting in a hide bored,why does it show I'm inexperienced? I'm talking sense. Believe me mate I don't take delight in dressing down old boys who are stuck in there ways if you had a fac for 50 years you should know better If I were you chap I would learn when to keep quiet and not make yourself look any more stupid. Picture this. I'll put it simply for you, so that even you can understand. Big steep mountain. Trees in valley at bottom. Stand in valley or on hill on opposite side of valley, fire up into trees. Whats behind trees ? A ruddy great mountain as a backstop. safe innit even 4 u !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devon Fox Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 If I were you chap I would learn when to keep quiet and not make yourself look any more stupid. Picture this. I'll put it simply for you, so that even you can understand. Big steep mountain. Trees in valley at bottom. Stand in valley or on hill on opposite side of valley, fire up into trees. Whats behind trees ? A ruddy great mountain as a backstop. safe innit even 4 u !!! Excellent Mr T I am afraid even you can not educate pork Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 Now, now ladies, hand bags away. I'm sure you can each see what the other is saying, there are situations when shooting up into tree tops is safe and (many more) times when it isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 It's topics like these that highlight both the truly experienced shots and the newbies/armchair shooters. I can think of several here who I've had a run in with at some point - Charlie, Dekers.... We've all had our little disagreements but here I have to back them 100% on this subject! Yes shooting into a tree with sky behind it is a bad idea but a tree with a hill behind it is fine. As for the ricochet from a branch, well you'll find quite a few really experienced guys who have had what can only be described as a ricochet off of the bones of a Deer. You're starting to talk about something that can happen but is so extremely unlikely that it can be dismissed from the arguement. Ie, you can't stay home all your life so you don't get run over by a bus because then you may die in a house fire - life has small risks and we have to calculate them and get on with it. Comments like "Would your FEO like to know" really get my back up! Maybe they wouldn't, but then I won't be the first or last to tell you that many of them have limited experience of what they do. I've even had them ring me for calibre advice (I **** you not - I'm serious)! Each to their own. If you don't like it then don't do it, but as long as you have a clear view through the branches (ie no leaves) then a tree with a steep hill behind it is as safe a shot as a standing Deer with a steep hill behind it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artschool Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 if you have ground as a backstop them that's fine, I don't think using thick branches as a backstop is acceptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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