sitsinhedges Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 get yourself over to croatia you can get half a dozen implants for that and have a bit of ahol at the same time, just been pricing a trip up for the self same thing KW For £2.5k I expect a couple of breast implants aswell as a new tooth Not for me obviously :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbob Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 Aye its rare walking out the doctors with a couple of prescriptions and not paying for them :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeds chimp Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 Same as at the dentist , I save my cavities for my ten yearly ordeal , when I pay my £300 the rest of them sign a chit and off they go . I feel a right chump too when I am the only one paying for the prescription . The ones who get the free medicines should be given free johnnies to reduce the numbers of spongers . oh really...please explain more... :hmm: "must not argue, must not argue, must not argue" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
officerdibble777 Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 Aye here we go agin,moan moan moan,Scotland get them free,N.I. Get them free,and Wales get them free too.Seems the English are paying for all of us,and your still complaining on a shooting forum ?Why don't you complain to your M.P. You voted for them,thay make the rules.And by the by, In Scotland,not only is the council tax frozen for yet another year,some councils ar actually reducing it are you subsidising this too ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 Aye here we go agin,moan moan moan,Scotland get them free,N.I. Get them free,and Wales get them free too.Seems the English are paying for all of us,and your still complaining on a shooting forum ?Why don't you complain to your M.P. You voted for them,thay make the rules.And by the by, In Scotland,not only is the council tax frozen for yet another year,some councils ar actually reducing it are you subsidising this too ? yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wy111 Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 ROB get mine for free :lol: have done for 5 years now... Same here, free now for 3 years :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagsy Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 (edited) Aye here we go agin,moan moan moan,Scotland get them free,N.I. Get them free,and Wales get them free too.Seems the English are paying for all of us,and your still complaining on a shooting forum ?Why don't you complain to your M.P. You voted for them,thay make the rules.And by the by, In Scotland,not only is the council tax frozen for yet another year,some councils ar actually reducing it are you subsidising this too ? That's never done any good as half of them ******* are Scottish too - and let's not start the issue of Scottish MPs voting on English issues Edited February 24, 2012 by Bagsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 (edited) In Scotland,not only is the council tax frozen for yet another year,some councils ar actually reducing it are you subsidising this too ? Yes. Edit: sorry Shaun, glacial connection speed, you beat me to it. Edited February 24, 2012 by Gimlet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
officerdibble777 Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 and let's not start the issue of Scottish MPs voting on English issues Why not ? In Scotland we have more Pandas than we have torry MP's yet we are governed by them from Westminster,for now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagsy Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 8bn saving sounds good to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
officerdibble777 Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 Yes. Edit: sorry Shaun, glacial connection speed, you beat me to it. away and no talk ****,the council in question has made cuts and savings to do this .Go and read something about Scottish politics instead of quoting from English rags Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 Why not ? In Scotland we have more Pandas than we have torry MP's yet we are governed by them from Westminster,for now It's going slightly off-topic but if the UK breaks up none of the former member states can remain members of the EU but would have to re-apply individually. There is not a cat in hell's chance of an independant England voting in a referendum to join the EU. So Scotland, will you please please please GET ON WITH IT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilly Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 I was told by a Welsh assembly member that the reason Wales don't pay is because it costs more to administer than they would make from it so they decided not to charge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VikingRebel Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 It's going slightly off-topic but if the UK breaks up none of the former member states can remain members of the EU but would have to re-apply individually. There is not a cat in hell's chance of an independant England voting in a referendum to join the EU. So Scotland, will you please please please GET ON WITH IT! What makes you think that the liblabcon machine would give us a referendum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willxx Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 again slightly off topic but English students pay for tuition in scotland but EU don't? http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2011/aug/21/scotland-university-fees-discriminate-lawyer Looks like we've already left the EU??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 Because its subsidised by us. Well you do get some of our drinking water for free, Élan Valley supplies part of the West Midlands, funny every time I visit Élan Valley I never can find a toilet & I always end up taking a pee in the reservoir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 What makes you think that the liblabcon machine would give us a referendum? They wouldn't. But in an independant England the Libs and Labs would likely be a spent force and the default setting for English politics would take a huge swing to the right. Cameron's leftist appeasement would be suicidal. He would become a Blairite candidate of the centre-left (which is what he is anyway) and the political mainstream would belong to the grass-roots Tory right either bolstered or challenged by the forces of what is now UKIP. Either way the Libconlab machine would be in bits on the floor. England would be ungovernable without a referendum. This is why Labour is desperate that Scotland votes to keep the union and conversely why I for one would dearly love to see them tear it apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heilan Coo Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 (edited) Pay for prescriptions when the scotch and welsh get there's free ? Because that's how we choose to spend our share of the taxes raised in the UK (of which I pay the same percentage as any other worker on the same wage in the UK), England obviously spends THEIRS on education unlike the Scottish or Welsh. :yp: :yp: Then again maybe not :yp: Pedantic..... me?! Oh, wrong thread Edited February 25, 2012 by Heilan Coo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 liblabcon Not wanting to pigeonhole you, but historically everyone else using that phrase on this forum has turned out to bulk-buy bacofoil in head-sized sheets whilst having no interest in cooking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
officerdibble777 Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 Not wanting to pigeonhole you, but historically everyone else using that phrase on this forum has turned out to bulk-buy bacofoil in head-sized sheets whilst having no interest in cooking. :lol: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 Because that's how we choose to spend our share of the taxes raised in the UK (of which I pay the same percentage as any other worker on the same wage in the UK), England obviously spends THEIRS on education unlike the Scottish or Welsh. :yp: :yp: Then again maybe not :yp: Pedantic..... me?! Oh, wrong thread How Scotland chooses to spend its central funds is immaterial. The fact remains that Scotland has available to spend 10 billion more per year than it is able to raise in taxation within its own borders. That surplus comes from the rest of the UK, which means since Wales and Northern Ireland are also in deficit, England. It is right and proper that a nation targets resources within its borders to give extra support to poorer regions. Thats normal, its what every other nation does. But redistribution is only tenable when the same spending rules apply thoughout the country, otherwise what you get is worse than a postcode lottery, its postcode opportunism. Given the inveterate resentment in Scotland toward all things English I cannot see how the normal fiscal arrangements of political union can ever function smoothly. The union made sense when there was an empire to run. It makes no sense at all now. It was deeply unpopular on both sides of the border when it was formed and 300 years later nothing has changed. Alex Salmond is right about one thing if nothing else, Scotland and England would enjoy far friendlier relations if they were seperate countries. Whether Scotland will wish to continue offering free university education and health care for the entire population of the EU when it would be paying the bill on its own remains to be seen. Particularly when the EU, post independence, would, if we are denied our referendum, include England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SneakyD Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 It's going slightly off-topic but if the UK breaks up none of the former member states can remain members of the EU but would have to re-apply individually. There is not a cat in hell's chance of an independant England voting in a referendum to join the EU. So Scotland, will you please please please GET ON WITH IT! I think you find that when Ireland is reunified we will still unfortunately still be members of the EU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 (edited) away and no talk ****,the council in question has made cuts and savings to do this .Go and read something about Scottish politics instead of quoting from English rags no Why not ? In Scotland we have more Pandas than we have torry MP's yet we are governed by them from Westminster,for now Panda's talk more sense :yp: Edited February 25, 2012 by shaun4860 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guest1957 Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 (edited) I think you find that when Ireland is reunified we will still unfortunately still be members of the EU. Excuse me while I go and shoot some of those pesky flying pigs that keep appearing over my permission... Edited February 25, 2012 by guest1957 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagsy Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 For the record I think we're stronger as one. However, if the Scottish wish to go it alone I'm with them, provided they pay their fair share of the national debt, pension contributions etc etc....and without the 8bn subsidy they currently enjoy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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