Blunderbust Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 (edited) Can I ask the members what they think. If you knew that a friend was smoking Dope (marigiwani) and said friend held an FAC what would your reaction be. Edited March 24, 2012 by Blunderbust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatcatsplat Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 Can he make toast would be my immediate thought. Other than that i wouldn't consider it for a nano second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazsl Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 as long as he not smoking while taking aim so he don't get smoke in his eye :yp: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedwards1966 Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 As I understand it, a side effect can be paranoia - I would check to see if that is the case, and if I'm right I would be reporting it IMMEDIATELY. Can you think of anything worse than someone holding firearms who is paranoid? If I knew someone in that situation I think I'd consider it my duty to do something about it, as not doing so could end up risking innocent lives if said person ends up in a mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscarsdad Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 As I understand it, a side effect can be paranoia - I would check to see if that is the case, and if I'm right I would be reporting it IMMEDIATELY. Can you think of anything worse than someone holding firearms who is paranoid? If I knew someone in that situation I think I'd consider it my duty to do something about it, as not doing so could end up risking innocent lives if said person ends up in a mess. I agree. Dope causes paranoia and may also cause schizophrenia. If someone is irresponsible enough to smoke it, that is up to them, but when they have access to lethal weapons possibly under the influence of the substance then something has to be done. Just imagine if this person has a funny turn and hurts someone, how will you feel if you don't report it but could have done? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatcatsplat Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 I know several people that drink. Funnily enough, they don't drink when they're shooting though!! He's your mate - You know him - Is he a nutter (by which i mean psychotic, neurotic and not just up for a bit of a dare) or is there an underlying problem? Assuming he's not, let him alone to do what the vast majority under the age of 90 have done in this country at some point or other in their lives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albertan_J Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 I think a couple of the comments already made show more paranoia then I've seen in anyone who.enjoys the occasional spliff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartynGT4 Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 Shouldn't believe everything you read in the press guys. Sure it can have adverse affects to some peoples mental health, but then so can alcohol and to a much greater extent. Alcohol might be more socially acceptable, but it causes infinitely more problems in our society than canabis ever has or ever will. Not suggesting everyone should go out and develop a canabis habbit, after all the price of cornflakes would sky rocket! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 When I worked on commercial sites every day the sure-fire way to spot a dope smoker were the little temper tantrums whenever the pressure was on or something wouldn't go right. Usually in the morning before they'd had a single skinner. They'd snap over nothing and just as quickly go back to normal again, and none of them knew they were doing it. The site-agents always knew and had them weighed up on their first day. I don't doubt dope causes psychosis, you can see it just under the surface. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piebob Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 ..... Or is it that these people already suffer from a little bit of psychosis / temper but a spliff keeps it under control? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 If people are radio rental already, there is nothing you can do. Ive never seen anyone turn mental over smoking dope. I have seen them live up to its name though and become careless. Thats the thing that would worry me. Accidents happen when people are on the ball, so when stoned, its deffo gonna happen. Then again, look at me, i turned out ok.......right?...?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 ..... Or is it that these people already suffer from a little bit of psychosis / temper but a spliff keeps it under control? Not if they didn't have the tantrums before they started smoking. I don't know, I'm not a psychiatrist, but if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannywayoflife Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 What about the link to a criminal element? I'm sure his dealer would be interested in knowing he has guns! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankeedoodlepigeon Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 Drinking alcohol causes depression so what's your point? would you tell on your friend for speeding to as that is illegal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapid basher Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 Drinking alcohol causes depression so what's your point? would you tell on your friend for speeding to as that is illegal? +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 What about the link to a criminal element? I'm sure his dealer would be interested in knowing he has guns! The only weed dealer I've ever met was a vegan who wouldn't harm a fly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark@mbb Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 I dont smoke but i have tried it 40 years ago it was called marajuana when i was a kid and i would think in todays age if you did a survey 80% off the members on will have tried it. Smoking it doesnt make you are sycopath we have lads that smoke it and never have a day work off we have lads that drink and you can gurantee they never turn up for work on a saturday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 Whoa man, this threads like trippy man...., like...ease off him dude.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pointer Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 Whoa man, this threads like trippy man...., like...ease off him dude.... :lol: Nice one I almost choked on my bong..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannywayoflife Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 Nick I can assure you that most dealers are not like the one you mention! I personally think its irresponsible. Would I be reporting him I'm not sure but it's definatly irresponsible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprackles Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 Let him without sin cast the first stone. Let's see how many consider themselves holier than thou. Ps, I don't do religion but the above is so true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbust Posted March 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 Thanks for the replies, I asked this question due to a telephone conversation I had with a friend a couple of nights ago. We are setting up a stalking trip for a few days later in the year and we were chatting about who is attending. He said that the usual were in agreement on the dates and that one of the others had asked if his friend would be able to join us. Seemingly this friend is into a bit of dope. I am not interested in dropping the guy in it as to be honest I do not know him other than what I have been told, it is just that I am not personally keen on having him join us on the trip and was wondering what other PW members thoughts were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39TDS Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 (edited) It puzzles me how drink and shooting are an acceptable mix. I really can't believe how you can choose a shooting peg by the number on the bottom of a shot glass. I've never been myself but it seems the norm to have a swig of something before, during and after. I love a drink but not if I am shooting. As for your mate, as said, you know him best but just the fact he smokes dope doesn't make him a psycho. Probably less so than drink if anything. Shooting while stoned isn't good though, if that's the case I might well think about reporting him. Edited March 25, 2012 by 39TDS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 Just a personal experience. Once had to attend a crash where a guy drove into a canal on a bad bend. 4 with him, 2 died. He had been smoking weed and it somewhat affected his judgement. I would tell your friend to get off and stay off drugs or you would report it to his doctor, initially, for his health's sake and then let the doctor decide. If however it continues, or he doesnt go, I'd tell your FEO about ' a friend' and ask his advice as to whether you should report it. We all know a criminal record prevents FAC grant - so is this legal ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 Weed does cause mental problems, I've seen it. One fella I know did 4 years after beating up the bouncer who was walking his wife home from the bar where she worked, another was sectioned after trying to burn down a petrol station and a third hanged himself in Amsterdam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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