swiss.tony Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 (edited) Mr ST, I have to agree and disagree with you, of course affordability can come into play, but one could also simply choose not to buy an expensive gun especially if it is going to be used in the hide where you know it will get damaged. agreed fella but same again if you could afford a 1k gun so be it. if it got damaged so be it its a gun not a thing to look at if i wanted cheap id buy cheap i want the best i can afford i wish i could spend 10 k on one if i had the cash i wood id still take it pigeon shooting or wats the point haveing it . Same thing at tescos i dont shop in cheap section why cause i dont want to evan tho the 9 pences beans are probely made at the same place as 60 pence beans if that makes sence Edited April 18, 2012 by swiss.tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosd Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 agreed fella but same again if you could afford a 1k gun so be it. if it got damaged so be it its a gun not a thing to look at if i wanted cheap id buy cheap i want the best i can afford i wish i could spend 10 k on one if i had the cash i wood id still take it pigeon shooting or wats the point haveing it . Same thing at tescos i dont shop in cheap section why cause i dont want to evan tho the 9 pences beans are probely made at the same place as 60 pence beans if that makes sence Both arguments stand true!I just felt a "blanket" statement that just because you don't have an expensive gun means you can't afford one was a little strong! Everyone is friends again, group hug at the ready Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swiss.tony Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 yer big kisses all round but not in a gay way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedwards1966 Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 bet this will get the mob barking its not guns nobs its a fact if they could afford a better gun they wood but they car"nt your not telling me if your had a pick of a beretta or a hatstand you wood pick the latter my bum you wood so lets get this right its gun poverty thats the problem simples What's wrong with not wanting to spend a huge amount extra on something that does the same job? If I were after a new gun I might not want to spend £1000 when £350 would do the same job - I might want to put the money to good use (such as more guns!). It wouldn't mean I couldn't spend more money, simply that I wouldn't want to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swiss.tony Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 What's wrong with not wanting to spend a huge amount extra on something that does the same job? If I were after a new gun I might not want to spend £1000 when £350 would do the same job - I might want to put the money to good use (such as more guns!). It wouldn't mean I couldn't spend more money, simply that I wouldn't want to. YER i no wat your sayin but im saying if you had a grand and you wanted a good gun you wood buy that and not a escort thats all i want a range rover sport but carnt afford it they both get you to sea side or shops hope you get wat i was on about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 Who gives a ****? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 (edited) Son has a escort, lovely gun, never jammed shot carts as light as 21g to mini mags 40g no props, & he can out shoot most of the nobs on my old shoot with a grand plus guns.They talk the talk have all the kit 200 quid wellies flat caps & waistcoats and all that ****.But when it comes too shooting regardless of the expense they dont hit jack ****.The perfect day was when mentioned knob got his 45 grand vouge stuck in mud & one of the lads just drove straight through in a Jimmy worth about 2 grans, priceless.WE learnt the hard way when my wife spent 38k on a Jag we kept it 3 yrs and lost 30k when we traded it in.Beretta/Escort both do the same job but ones gona lose a lot more money when sold. I had Lanber Sport 800quid & Beretta A400 extreme 1500quid & not worth it , sold both after trying a mates old Franchi al45.cost me 150 quid.Will keep it till it dies or i do. forgot to add lost 500 on the Lanber & 900 on the Beretta both had less than 200 carts each through them. Edited April 18, 2012 by Davyo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poorpeet Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 Nothing wrong with Escorts. I have a Gold E and an Escort but I always seem to pick up the Escort so the Gold E's going. Just because it cost more it doesn't always mean it's better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 i had one, nothing wrong with it.no jamming throw out 28grs all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosd Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 Who gives a ****? Was that just a random comment or just as much as you could come up with to add to the debate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0145wirbelwind Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 Chard Is right who really give a ****. If you want to buy an escort, then buy an escort, People seem to love them or hate them. This just keeps coming up again and again . Is it that you have gone into a shop and paid good money for one and need a bit of reassurance on you buy ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krugerandsmith Posted April 19, 2012 Report Share Posted April 19, 2012 Nothing wrong with Escorts. I have a Gold E and an Escort but I always seem to pick up the Escort so the Gold E's going. Just because it cost more it doesn't always mean it's better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krugerandsmith Posted April 20, 2012 Report Share Posted April 20, 2012 Whats wrong with the escorts?? brilliant bits of kit, mine has had thousands of carts through it, things break and wear out and are replaced, its probably one of the easiest guns to strip down and doesn't cost the earth, so what's wrong with em? Tel. I agree .....Have you read Mike Stones test report in the latest edition of Gun Mart? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vole Posted April 20, 2012 Report Share Posted April 20, 2012 Chard Is right who really give a ****. If you want to buy an escort, then buy an escort, People seem to love them or hate them. This just keeps coming up again and again . Is it that you have gone into a shop and paid good money for one and need a bit of reassurance on you buy ? Chard is an auld curmudgeon yet without the likes of him and the eternal Escort rubbish/brilliant debate the forum would be mighty quiet . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dead eye alan Posted April 21, 2012 Report Share Posted April 21, 2012 Had my escort 3 years 1 broken spring repird under garante over 5000 carts fired great gun loved it. Pick up new one on tuesday got 100 quid trade in on old one so only 350 to pay, you cant beat that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrapFiller Posted April 21, 2012 Report Share Posted April 21, 2012 450s a bit steep 369 for most at my local RFD and some are cheaper than that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krugerandsmith Posted April 22, 2012 Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 Had my escort 3 years 1 broken spring repird under garante over 5000 carts fired great gun loved it. Pick up new one on tuesday got 100 quid trade in on old one so only 350 to pay, you cant beat that. dead eye. Bought my Escort second hand for £190 .... Part exchanged it for the latest fast loader at Countryman of Derby received £175 .... Hsd to pay £170 ......Now thats a bargain. Never had a problem with my old gun .....and I just love my new one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sl1959 Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 I get pleasure from having a better gun. Bit like saying a 20 year old Scoda will get you into town like a new BMW but I know which I'd rather drive. shallow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbit_stu Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 mine was £450 in the shop, rfd knocked £50 off so im happy. scored 5 more on sporting clays and got a couple rabbits and a fox at weekend, so far so good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tel Time Posted April 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 Hatsan has accounted for a few more pigeons, geese etc and still no problems, dried it off, lubed it up then got out of me muddy, wet clothes and took a hot shower. I do find it very interesting what people form their views on and how they think, the fact that just a few words can elicit some strong opinions from such a varied cross section of the masses gives me a quiet moment of thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RN Gunner Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 Hatsan has accounted for a few more pigeons, geese etc and still no problems, dried it off, lubed it up then got out of me muddy, wet clothes and took a hot shower. I do find it very interesting what people form their views on and how they think, the fact that just a few words can elicit some strong opinions from such a varied cross section of the masses gives me a quiet moment of thought. And your thought was ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobgoblin Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 i phoned an escort agency in town...useless ,did'nt have any spares for my Mk3............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tel Time Posted June 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 Escort is still going strong, 40 rabbits, 200 pigeons, 50 or so crows and some canadians as well, pity the ******* freezer broke. My thoughts are my own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clakk Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 never missed a beat ,295 quid at newark show 24 to 40 gramm cartridges .fast as u like squeeze the trigger pigeons drop .got a 686 whitewing beretta love it didnt love scratching it pigeon bashing ,so mrs boss said yes to my escort .dont care its made for a price ,cheap spares ,will keep until shes ready to retire.then ill buy another.hatsan listen to their customers every problem moaned about seems to be rectified as u go ,mr happy customer :good: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 Escort is still going strong, 40 rabbits, 200 pigeons, 50 or so crows and some canadians as well Still new then.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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