BSA-airgunner Posted April 21, 2012 Report Share Posted April 21, 2012 Ok chaps I have had my local feo round this morning for my sons interview and he tells my that last week in Surrey / Sussex at a clay shoot a fella mistakenly loaded a 20g shell followed by a 12g shell .the gun exploded fireing the barrel from the action he didn't go into detail as my son was sitting there . So I don't know if it was fatal or just injury..... LETS ALL BE CAREFUL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ550Kevlar Posted April 21, 2012 Report Share Posted April 21, 2012 Am i the only one thinking how? i can`t get my head round it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedwards1966 Posted April 21, 2012 Report Share Posted April 21, 2012 Am i the only one thinking how? i can`t get my head round it. The smaller 20 bore cartridge goes part way down the barrel and gets stuck in the forcing cone, leaving room behind to fit a 12 bore in. The person loads a 20, tries to shoot and obviously it doesn't go off, so they open the chamber and see it's empty and assume they forgot to load a cartridge. They then put a 12 in, and when they fire it the 20 is blocking the barrel so the pressure has to go somewhere, the result tends to be that the barrel gets blown to pieces - along with anyone nearby. If you survive doing this you're a lucky person. That's why you should NEVER have any 20 bore cartridges with you, and if a gun doesn't fire and it looks like you forgot to load it - look down the barrel to check it's completely empty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted April 21, 2012 Report Share Posted April 21, 2012 I've never understood how anyone could do it without noticing. There must be some real numpties out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin2 Posted April 21, 2012 Report Share Posted April 21, 2012 at harty ferry clay ground theres a poster warning of this very thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted April 21, 2012 Report Share Posted April 21, 2012 Its a common warnign and I know of several people who have come close to doing it, its simple not too but people mix carts leave a 20 in a pocket/bag/coat then load the same pocket with 12s etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakerboy Posted April 21, 2012 Report Share Posted April 21, 2012 Maybe the Fire Arms Officer was giving you a graphic but important warning. It could be that suspected that you and and your son could be using different gauges, it could also happen with 28g and 20g and .410 and 28g. Why are we now able to buy 20g that are not Yellow, the manufacturers have taken a backwards step on this one me thinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted April 21, 2012 Report Share Posted April 21, 2012 (edited) I've never understood how anyone could do it without noticing. There must be some real numpties out there. There speaks a perfect person .... Anyone who shoots with thier wife/kids has probably been in the situation to have 20 and 12 and carts for both in the same place. Edited April 21, 2012 by gixer1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted April 21, 2012 Report Share Posted April 21, 2012 I think it's called natural selection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted April 21, 2012 Report Share Posted April 21, 2012 (edited) I think it's called natural selection. IT was now H&S has undone Darwin........ Edited April 21, 2012 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted April 21, 2012 Report Share Posted April 21, 2012 IT was now H&S has undone Darmin........ Darwin or darmin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted April 21, 2012 Report Share Posted April 21, 2012 Darwin or darmin? Got me............... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted April 21, 2012 Report Share Posted April 21, 2012 Got me............... There's proof that mistakes happen.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted April 21, 2012 Report Share Posted April 21, 2012 I shoot 12 20(wife's) and a 28 so have 3 cartridge bags because I'm not prefect and if **** happened it would hurt lots. I was given 10 black 20 shells that have been cut up. Personnels I believe it would help if cartridges in the othe gauges come in different colours and 12 bore avoided them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandalf Posted April 21, 2012 Report Share Posted April 21, 2012 This has been TALKED about for as long as I have been shooting - and thats a very long time. Articles have been written in all the popular shooting magazines. What has been done? Nothing - as usual! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted April 21, 2012 Report Share Posted April 21, 2012 There speaks a perfect person .... Anyone who shoots with thier wife/kids has probably been in the situation to have 20 and 12 and carts for both in the same place. Far from perfect. But certainly not stupid enough to drop a 20g into a 12g and not notice a ******* great void in the chamber where the cartridge should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ550Kevlar Posted April 21, 2012 Report Share Posted April 21, 2012 I've never understood how anyone could do it without noticing. There must be some real numpties out there. my thoughts exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted April 21, 2012 Report Share Posted April 21, 2012 In britain years ago 20s were always yellow, 16s were always blue and 12s were always something reddish, it might be nearer brown but within the red range. It was always like a gentlemans understanding rather than a rule but that was in the days before we started seeing loads of imported cartridges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpowder Posted April 21, 2012 Report Share Posted April 21, 2012 In britain years ago 20s were always yellow, 16s were always blue and 12s were always something reddish, it might be nearer brown but within the red range. It was always like a gentlemans understanding rather than a rule but that was in the days before we started seeing loads of imported cartridges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted April 21, 2012 Report Share Posted April 21, 2012 Ok chaps I have had my local feo round this morning for my sons interview and he tells my that last week in Surrey / Sussex at a clay shoot a fella mistakenly loaded a 20g shell followed by a 12g shell .the gun exploded fireing the barrel from the action he didn't go into detail as my son was sitting there . So I don't know if it was fatal or just injury..... LETS ALL BE CAREFUL I heard it happened at Southdown and the fella lost his arm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tosspot Posted April 21, 2012 Report Share Posted April 21, 2012 I heard it happened at Southdown and the fella lost his arm. Heard there was an incident there, helicopter called ect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter.123 Posted April 21, 2012 Report Share Posted April 21, 2012 Yep he has lost his arm upto his elbow and 2 fingers on his left hand apparently. Just goes to show how carful you need to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSA-airgunner Posted April 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2012 I heard it happened at Southdown and the fella lost his arm. you know what i was going to shoot southdown last week with a few guys from work .......close to home is that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted April 21, 2012 Report Share Posted April 21, 2012 you know what i was going to shoot southdown last week with a few guys from work .......close to home is that I have a practice up there every so often, only 45 mins up the road for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted April 21, 2012 Report Share Posted April 21, 2012 a lot of game shooters will open the gun and be looking skyward for the next bird while reloading so I can totally understand how this could happen, yes it is silly but so are most accidents - doesn't mean the persons are full time numpties - just that they had a lapse in concentration, thinking about the next bird/target and not about the fact there was no previous second shot - drop a pair of shells in while still looking skyward and bobs yet autie's manny.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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