CROWalYeLikUrDEAD Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 Hello there, I already have a .17 HMR on my license but have a chance to get a CZ american .22 lr way scope and moderator and mounts for in around £450... My normal distance around my landowners fields are roughly never more than 180 yards and I am often shooting things around 40-80 yards rather than 140+ would getting a .22 LR be a so called better choice off a gun for me? Bearing in mind I know the HMR can do alot off damage at 40 yards but for rabbits etc the subsonic rounds seem more apeeling but I'd like to no what my felo PW members think? Cheers u lot for taking the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redtailhawk1 Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 Personally I would sell my .22lr before my .17hmr. They are both CZ452. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimfireboy Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 You are right in thinking that the .22 lr is a good choice at 40 to 80 yards range, but not out to 180 yards that you mention. There would be too much bullet drop at those ranges. The hmr would be the right choice for 100 yards plus I.M.O. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CROWalYeLikUrDEAD Posted June 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 Understand rim fire...what I meant was I don't shoot much at 180 yards with my .17 HMR more in region off. 40-80 but would paying for a .22 lr be a silly option fore or more thoughtfull saying its the main range for this type off gun ? That's what I'm sort off saying what would you do? Stick with the HMR even at 40 yards or go get the good deal off a .22 lr and be more confident aiming at 40-80 yards?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 buy a cheaper second hand lr.no point in spending big money if you use hmr more.so long as it shoots straight.lr can be a wicked ****** to shoot tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimfireboy Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 Understand rim fire...what I meant was I don't shoot much at 180 yards with my .17 HMR more in region off. 40-80 but would paying for a .22 lr be a silly option fore or more thoughtfull saying its the main range for this type off gun ? That's what I'm sort off saying what would you do? Stick with the HMR even at 40 yards or go get the good deal off a .22 lr and be more confident aiming at 40-80 yards?? In that case get yourself a .22 lr. Much cheaper to run, quiet and it'll do what you need up to 80 yards, no bother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitnmiss Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 I've knocked Hare's over at 100yrd's + with my .22Lr no prob and shot rabbit's as 30yrds, agreed you get more bullet drop over the distance with the .22 but when it get's there it's still got the power to do the job, where as i don't think the .17 would have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbiter Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 you dont think the .17hmr would have the power to knock over a hare at 100 yards plus,but the .22lr has!is that what youre saying mate or did i read it wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter.123 Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 17hmr is a 100yrd plus gun. 22lr Is upto a 100ish yrds. You could do worse than having both mate 17hmr is a 100yrd plus gun. 22lr Is upto a 100ish yrds. You could do worse than having both mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swiss.tony Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 you dont think the .17hmr would have the power to knock over a hare at 100 yards plus,but the .22lr has!is that what youre saying mate or did i read it wrong? your kidding arnt you they flatten hares well past 150 160 i wood not want to get in way of 1 at 250 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbiter Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 your kidding arnt you they flatten hares well past 150 160 i wood not want to get in way of 1 at 250 see post 7 mate.............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedwards1966 Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 For your use it sounds like a .22lr could be ideal. It's limit is about 100 yards, so at your ranges you'll be fine, it's pretty flat shooting up to about 70 yards. It's very quiet, I find that it doesn't disturb rabbits, and it's very nice popping off rounds at a fraction of the cost of the .17 - subsonic ammo for the .22lr can be had at 8.8 pence each easily enough. You don't need to spend anywhere near as much on the rifle as the one your looking at, there is nothing wrong with buying a modern one, but the older ones are just the same, just as accurate and can be 1/3 of the price. While the .17HMR is a great round, I'd never want to be without a .22lr - having such cheap and almost silent ammo is great. One thing to be aware of, they do ricochet easily - off stones, hard baked earth, water etc, you might find some shots that aren't safe as you don't want one zinging off and hitting someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 as i agree with the above comments about the lr being a sub 100 yard gun i have found a hv round that it likes the cci velocitors with my scope zeroed at 50 yards with subs i find the hv rounds bang on at 100 i also have just picked up some of the new cci quiets running at 710 fps and having 45 ft lb at muzzle they are great round buildings and small paddocks so i have 3 guns in one with my lr colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyfrog Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 As everyone else is saying 22LR is quieter but range is less than 17HMR, for your distances 22LR should suffice and cheaper to feed, however if I were you and could have both on my ticket, keep both you may need some extra punch distance wise at some point in proceedings.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CROWalYeLikUrDEAD Posted June 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 Most seem to think I'm goin to change my .17 ..... This is false. I'm saying that since mainly my shooting distance is roughly 40-80 yards, should I get a .22lr or is it a waste off money at £450 since my .17 can do it anyways? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 Most seem to think I'm goin to change my .17 ..... This is false. I'm saying that since mainly my shooting distance is roughly 40-80 yards, should I get a .22lr or is it a waste off money at £450 since my .17 can do it anyways? get the lr mate colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the pelt man Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 Get the .22lr £450 is nothing these days and IMHO is a much better round than the .17hmr PELTY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CROWalYeLikUrDEAD Posted June 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 Cheers lad think a will!! Looking at it tomoro I'll let use no! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 .22LR really comes into its own at night, whether lamping or with NV. If you've got a lot of rabbits to deal with its invaluable. I wonder why you're shooting at such short ranges. The HMR is perfectly practical up close and if you don't want damage then a a head shot at 40 yds is like hitting a football, but at 40- 80 yds you're not getting the best out of the rifle. I'd get the .22 if you're happy to spend the money and work on extending your HMR range. Then you're pretty much covered for everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 Hmm, hate to throw a spanner in the works but since getting my rapid over to FAC I haven't taken my .22lr out much at all. Firstly, if I need accuracy and flat shooting where noise isn't an issue it's the hmr every time. Secondly, if I'm shooting paddocks, near urban areas or around livestock I simply cannot trust the 22lr anymore. Ricochets are all too common and I simply can't take the chance in most of the areas. With the Rapid running at 30fpe I'm now taking shots with some holdover out to 70 yards, that was pretty much my 22lr range anyway. If your after something cheap to run, after the initial outlay, I challenge anyone to beat an fac air rifle for cost. As for shot count, a consistent 80 shots from a single 230 bar charge, more than enough. I no longer have my heart in my mouth as I listen to yet another round ping off to god knows where. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 I'm with Mick - if you must have another rifle, FAC air and hmr is all you need on that land and you have the two projectiles that cause the least problems when or if they come out the other side of bunny. I'll wager a bet that if 100 people headshot a rabbit with .22lr, less than 2 would find the bullet, and those would be ones that were shot head on with the bullet passing into the body. You could buy a lorra lorra hmr rounds for that £450. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buster 6241 Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 The difference between the two rounds is about 13 pence, times that by 3500 and you recouped your outlay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deiseboy Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 since you are keeping the hmr i dont see the point in a 22lr.. Did you consider looking at an air rifle? would be handy to use around/in farm buildings and even cheaper to shoot than the .22. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse James Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 As some have said they both have there place, I bought a Brand new .22LR CZ 452 Silhouette for £300. as in my sig below I have both now .17 HMR & .22 and they both have there place on my different permissions. For me it works out to have both.... lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GatGun Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 buy a cheap .22lr you can get them new pumas for £299 with scope and mod. They aint fancy but theyl do the job well enough. Failing that buy an old brno for around £ 100 quid. A pretty stock doesent help you shoot better but a few scratches aint going to affect the way it shoots. The beuty with old .22s is that the barrels dont wear ! The hmr isnt all its cropped up to be IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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