fenntiger Posted August 13, 2012 Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 what is the law on shooting canada,s with a centre fire rifle as vermin. some say you can and some say you cant.it does,nt seem right to me as i have used shot guns for30 years.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve w Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 Ask the BASC you will get the right answer .i would not do it myself and i have a .243 and the access to land with geese feeding and the farmer who wants them shot .i think the best way to control them is over decoys on the crops they are feeding on .sept 1st i will be having a cull with a few mates ,they can shoot want they want as long as all of them get eaten . they should never have been put on general licence . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 short answer - legally providing the terms of the general license have been met, then they can be shot with a centre fire rifle. whether many people agree with that is a different matter, but irrelevant as far a law goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 do they conform to the vermin definition though personally I'm not sure. Best check with BASC really I have pest control so would be happy that that was fine but not too sure on vermin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 i guess that depends on each persons FAC conditions and how their force interprets them - i would have though " the shooting of vermin or, in connection with the management of any estate, other wildlife" would cover it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 assuming that is against the rifle not the expanding ammo where the latter part usually is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenntiger Posted August 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 Ask the BASC you will get the right answer .i would not do it myself and i have a .243 and the access to land with geese feeding and the farmer who wants them shot .i think the best way to control them is over decoys on the crops they are feeding on .sept 1st i will be having a cull with a few mates ,they can shoot want they want as long as all of them get eaten . they should never have been put on general licence . i would not shoot them with rifle it do,s not seem right and shooting them out season i have a farmer friend ringing me up to come and shoot them but i wont go till sept.1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 Ha, sounds like a couple of permissions could be up for grabs if someone were to strike real quick. It seems my smileys are only available in certain sections or somink? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve w Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 Don't get me wrong I shoot geese out of season the farmer has a ticket from defra to take 30 birds per year .but I only do this when all other methods have failed .i have shot on this farm for over 25 years and got many a young and old gun there 1 st goose . But not with a rifle . Dave g. Why would you think someone permission would up for grabs is that how get yours go to farms and offer to shoot trap and kill anything that flys or walks ,class act Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted August 15, 2012 Report Share Posted August 15, 2012 (edited) Don't get me wrong I shoot geese out of season the farmer has a ticket from defra to take 30 birds per year .but I only do this when all other methods have failed .i have shot on this farm for over 25 years and got many a young and old gun there 1 st goose . But not with a rifle . Dave g. Why would you think someone permission would up for grabs is that how get yours go to farms and offer to shoot trap and kill anything that flys or walks ,class act You've changed your story a bit - now that's a very class act. Nothing classy about my point Steve, if some won't shoot legal vermin as farmer wants they risk farmer letting someone else in who will, it's not rocket science. Bunnies are my thing at £2 per head shot gutted so not shooting anything that moves, but if I'm asked to and it's legal I will. Edited August 15, 2012 by Dave-G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon6ppc Posted August 15, 2012 Report Share Posted August 15, 2012 so if you ave a centerfire rifle and it says on your ticket you can use it for fox and vermin you can shoot geese with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenntiger Posted August 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2012 good point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet1747 Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 i would not shoot them with rifle it do,s not seem right and shooting them out season i have a farmer friend ringing me up to come and shoot them but i wont go till sept.1 Didn't think you could shoot them out of season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomhw100 Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 (edited) Only Canadian geese are classed as vermin not that I think they should be although I know they can cause massive problems to farmers. They are on the general licence so they can be shot all year round. If you have a vermin condition on your centre fire rifle you can shoot them,I would rather shoot them with shotguns but that's just my choice. Edited August 16, 2012 by tomhw100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr williamson Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 You've changed your story a bit - now that's a very class act. Nothing classy about my point Steve, if some won't shoot legal vermin as farmer wants they risk farmer letting someone else in who will, it's not rocket science. Bunnies are my thing at £2 per head shot gutted so not shooting anything that moves, but if I'm asked to and it's legal I will. just soinds to me like steves a responsible shooter with a bit of respect for his quarry. imop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixie Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 If you use a shot gun you have to use non lead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 Canada Geese are on the General License for a reason. In large numbers they can devistate growing crops as well as fouling lakes, waterways and areas of public access. Natural England have been minded to take on board land managers concerns and thankfully farmers and land managers are now able to tackle the problem with a variety of measures, one of which is shooting. I should add that NE suggests, where large numbers are concerned, that whilst the geese are in the flightless molt period they should be rounded up and dispatched. By following this method large numbers can be culled in a short time. The shooting of Canada Geese with a rifle is not shooting for sport. It is an extremely useful method of culling. Please do not confuse sporting shooting and pest culling. They are totally different things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 (edited) see below Edited August 21, 2012 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 (edited) what is the law on shooting canada,s with a centre fire rifle as vermin. some say you can and some say you cant.it does,nt seem right to me as i have used shot guns for30 years.... short answer - legally providing the terms of the general license have been met, then they can be shot with a centre fire rifle. whether many people agree with that is a different matter, but irrelevant as far a law goes. Canada Geese are on the General License for a reason. In large numbers they can devistate growing crops as well as fouling lakes, waterways and areas of public access. Natural England have been minded to take on board land managers concerns and thankfully farmers and land managers are now able to tackle the problem with a variety of measures, one of which is shooting. I should add that NE suggests, where large numbers are concerned, that whilst the geese are in the flightless molt period they should be rounded up and dispatched. By following this method large numbers can be culled in a short time. The shooting of Canada Geese with a rifle is not shooting for sport. It is an extremely useful method of culling. Please do not confuse sporting shooting and pest culling. They are totally different things. Your answer, from nickbeardo and Charlie T. Edited August 21, 2012 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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