Liam-1990 Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 tried necking them and can never seem to get it right either not enough force or too much and head comes off and im not keen on pulling the heads off, will try using there body weight to do it next time, but I normally just put there head on a hard surface (rock, log, ect) and stand on it, dead instantly although not the most dignified way to go does the trick but have been fortunate to only have to do this to a few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salop Matt Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 Use a preist ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weejase Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 .22 webley hurricane to the back of the head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 The problem with priests and all other implements is that they are just another something to carry and store, and priests can make them bleed like stuck pigs too. It's far better to learn to dispatch them with your bare hands if you can just for simplicity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Actionpigeons Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 .22 webley hurricane to the back of the head the mind boggles! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbga9pgf Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 I think he means as priest! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 I think he means as priest! Pistol whipping What is this, The Mafia :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Actionpigeons Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 Humane despatch pliers work.pretty well.too, the smaller size does the job for me. Quick and effecient. Karpman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 I dont know so much about that I can rememeber the Queen getting a lot of stick for doing the same ! not so many years ago,and as this thread was started by a newcomer I would much prefer that the job was done quick and clean, Priest all the way What was not quick and clean about that then?? I feel its better than beating it over the head, which doesnt always work first blow ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steved Posted August 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 Thanks for all the comments. I'll sort a priest. I have a habit of loosing them when im fishing so i'll try to get the knack of the swing as well. Ta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamekeeper1960 Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 What was not quick and clean about that then?? I feel its better than beating it over the head, which doesnt always work first blow ... Am I understanding you right ? you would rather teach a novice shooter to twirl a bird round and not know if hes killed hi quarry quickly & cleanly. than hitting it with a priest. the mind boggles and no wonder we get so much flack from antis ! I cant find any advise on the basc website to surpport your argument, and if you cant hit something hard enough to kill your quarry first time then get a pair fo game desapatches and keep them with you while you are shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu nesling Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 method 1, best way i find is to twist the head around until you feel it go slack/broken neck....dead bird with no chance of the head coming off.(3 secs) you can keep control of the bird in your other hand and stop it flapping around, and anyone watching knows nothing!. method 2 is to put pressure on the depressions found on the body just forward of the wings, using thumb and index finger. not really for the novice though. not the best as it actually crushes the lungs. again non messy and keeps the head on! swinging a bird around wont look too good if you are being watched and will lead to blood everywhere if the head comes off. tbh swinging a priest wont look too good either if you are being watched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weejase Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 the mind boggles! Why does your mind boggle then I`m sure a pellet in the brain is a lot quicker than 1 maybe 2 hits with a priest Next time I`m on the ferals around the barns I`ll leave the rapid at home and launch some priests at them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 (edited) Am I understanding you right ? you would rather teach a novice shooter to twirl a bird round and not know if hes killed hi quarry quickly & cleanly. than hitting it with a priest. the mind boggles and no wonder we get so much flack from antis ! I cant find any advise on the basc website to support your argument, and if you cant hit something hard enough to kill your quarry first time then get a pair fo game desapatches and keep them with you while you are shooting. He would know when it's dead as you can feel the neck break. I think its quicker and more discrete than standing there beating a bird around the head. A pigeon for example, when you pick it up, they pull their heads in, making it difficult to kill the bird with the first blow. Or you can pick the pigeon up by its head, a quick twirl and its dead. As you can see in the video clip, its a fast and humane dispatching technique, which is what is mentioned on the BASC web site. We all p,rick birds, so do you, so we should all carry game dispatchers and not priests then? .... or is this just a sales pitch for your priests? Ps, I'm not knocking priests, its a good way to despatch birds if you can't get on with neck breaking, I just find the neck breaking quicker. Edited August 20, 2012 by chrispti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weejase Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 I just love the folk that say If you can`t kill your quarry first time blah blah blah. I feel so humbled to be around so many olympic level shooters It`s no wonder folk are put off posting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamekeeper1960 Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 You two gentlemen have done nothing to change my views on teaching a newcomer to our sport in the correct way to despatch wounded game, If people do not follow the code of practice layed down by our shooting bodies then whats the point, and you play straight into to the hands of people who would sooner we did shoot at all. guilds by basc and other shooting groups are there help all shooters. and you maybe very proficient the way you despactch your quarry but you !!! where not the person asking the question in the first place ! and I still stand to be corrected if you can find a shooting organisation that persrcibes the use of neck twirling then please corrected me !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamekeeper1960 Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 He would know when it's dead as you can feel the neck break. I think its quicker and more discrete than standing there beating a bird around the head. A pigeon for example, when you pick it up, they pull their heads in, making it difficult to kill the bird with the first blow. Or you can pick the pigeon up by its head, a quick twirl and its dead. As you can see in the video clip, its a fast and humane dispatching technique, which is what is mentioned on the BASC web site. We all p,rick birds, so do you, so we should all carry game dispatchers and not priests then? .... or is this just a sales pitch for your priests? Ps, I'm not knocking priests, its a good way to despatch birds if you can't get on with neck breaking, I just find the neck breaking quicker. Please Show were I have said that priests are for sale ! IF you bothered reading the thread correctlly then you would know that I shown people how to make thier own. NO SALES PITCH ANY WHERE IN SITE. so please keep your remarks to your self. thank you !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljaddy12 Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 hold the bird in 1 hand head facing away from you slide your other hand up the back of the bird where the wings meet the body just underneath ul feel soft tissue squeze hard in that tissue with finger and thumb till they touch and keep there the bird will shudder and stop its over very quick no fuss may take a lil practice but find better than priests or spinning tried all until i was shown this method. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 The BASC's code of practice are just guide lines. What's law, as stated in the General Licence, '' Any birds killed in accordance with this licence must be killed in a quick and humane manner.'' Please Show were I have said that priests are for sale ! IF you bothered reading the thread correctlly then you would know that I shown people how to make thier own. NO SALES PITCH ANY WHERE IN SITE. so please keep your remarks to your self. thank you !!! Thank you. It seems I didn't bother to read your post properly, apologies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karpman Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 Doubt you will find a much quicker mot efficient manner than using speciality pliers, have found them brilliant professional looking and very efficient. As with crows you don't even have to handle them directly so no fear of a crow bite simplest way to despatch from pigeon to pheasant in my humble opinion. Leaves the birds in get good condition for decoys too. Karpman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamekeeper1960 Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 The BASC's code of practice are just guide lines. What's law, as stated in the General Licence, '' Any birds killed in accordance with this licence must be killed in a quick and humane manner.'' Thank you. It seems I didn't bother to read your post properly, apologies Dave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudpatten Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 (edited) Learn to bite the back of the pigeons head. Place your eye teeth just above and behind the birds eyeball and give it a sharp , firm bite. You`ll feel the skull shatter. Most people get the pressure right after their second or third attempt. It`s quick and discrete and, in the old days of market gunning was the preferred method of dispatch. No smashed, bloody skulls or eyes knocked out nor stretched necks. If you can`t bring yourself to bite their heads learn how to discretely twirl their necks. You can always move back to a priest if you prefer, but one thing is certain, if you are only confident in killing birds with a priest, you will almost certainly have your best ever day at pigeon over decoys WHEN YOU`VE LEFT IT AT HOME! Wotcha going to do then? Edited August 20, 2012 by mudpatten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamekeeper1960 Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 Learn to bite the back of the pigeons head. Place your eye teeth just above and behind the birds eyeball and give it a sharp , firm bite. You`ll feel the skull shatter. Most people get the pressure right after their second or third attempt. It`s quick and discrete and, in the old days of market gunning was the preferred method of dispatch. No smashed, bloody skulls or eyes knocked out nor stretched necks. If you can`t bring yourself to bite their heads learn how to discretely twirl their necks. You can always move back to a priest if you prefer, but one thing is certain, if you are only confident in killing birds with a priest, you will almost certainly have your best ever day at pigeon over decoys WHEN YOU`VE LEFT IT AT HOME! Wotcha going to do then? Funny thing is you'll probablely have a even better day the day you forget your> Gun ! Cartridges ! Earplugs ! Hide ! Poles ! Decoys ! you see if you can remember to take everything,and not a priest or humane despatches, then tie a knot in your hankie !. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karpman Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 Learn to bite the back of the pigeons head. Place your eye teeth just above and behind the birds eyeball and give it a sharp , firm bite. You`ll feel the skull shatter. Most people get the pressure right after their second or third attempt. It`s quick and discrete and, in the old days of market gunning was the preferred method of dispatch. No smashed, bloody skulls or eyes knocked out nor stretched necks. If you can`t bring yourself to bite their heads learn how to discretely twirl their necks. You can always move back to a priest if you prefer, but one thing is certain, if you are only confident in killing birds with a priest, you will almost certainly have your best ever day at pigeon over decoys WHEN YOU`VE LEFT IT AT HOME! Wotcha going to do then? May be helpful if you could make a video illustrating this head biting technique, and the most hygienic method of doing so. Would be most educational I'm sure! Karpman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomhw100 Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 (edited) That's an old punt gunners trick....I very much doubt anyone still uses it today....there's just no need for it unless they like pretending they do it. It's guaranteed every time this question is asked some one will give that answer! And as for discreet I think it's the most un discreet thing you could do lol I'd rather let some one seeing me give a pigeon a quick flick of the wrist anyday of the week over actually letting them see me putting its head in my mouth! Edited August 20, 2012 by tomhw100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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