Yorkhawk67 Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 After hearing about some of the recent dog attacks by so called dangerous dogs it made me wonder if on your way home from say pigeon shooting or clay shooting you witnessed a dog attacking someone and inflicting a serious injury to that person and then moving on towards other members of the public would you be penalised if you shot and killed the dog. Obviousely only if it were safe to shoot the dog ie no people around it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
storme37 Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 i expect someone would have a paddy about it or sue you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannon Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 You would probably lose your licence for discharging a firearm in a public place. The 'what if' brigade would be all over it like a rash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkhawk67 Posted September 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 (edited) But you could argue that the law allows you to use reasonable force in defence of yourself or others Edited September 1, 2012 by Yorkhawk67 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 If there were no people around the dog, why would you shoot it? Where is the imminent danger to the public which would warrant you discharging a gun in public? Phone the Police and let them do their job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkhawk67 Posted September 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 If you read my post I said it was going towards other people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannon Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 But you could argue that the law allows you to use reasonable force in defence of yourself or others Reasonable force in this case would be a swift boot. If that didn't work, you haven't kicked hard enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkhawk67 Posted September 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 Reasonable force in this case would be a swift boot. If that didn't work, you haven't kicked hard enough. Have you ever kicked a ****** off pit bull ? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannon Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 Have you ever kicked a ****** off pit bull ? Lol Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkhawk67 Posted September 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 (edited) Yes You're a braver man than me lol Edited September 1, 2012 by Yorkhawk67 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 This scenario is so unlikely as to be near futile having a discussion about it. In essence though I would not unleash a gun in public for love or money, even if witnessing a gang of armed robbers doing a Guy Ritchie. If a dog attacked me whilst actually shooting then it would be familiarising itself to the contents of one or more barrels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkhawk67 Posted September 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 How is the scenario so unlikely ? A man has just been jailed for his two pit bulls doing just what I described! Imagine sitting back and doing nothing then watching them kill a child playing in the street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 I did read your post. Perhaps you should have read mine. You seem intent in encouraging someone to say that they would shoot the dog. Put up or shut up. If you would shoot the dog - have the courage to say so. Don't ask others the question you won't answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon pete Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 best way to stop a dog that is attacking someone is to get both front legs and pull them apart as wide as you can ,this then pushes there rib cage into there boiler room and kills them ,yes you could get bit ,use a firearm in a public place and you lose it , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 best way to stop a dog that is attacking someone is to get both front legs and pull them apart as wide as you can ,this then pushes there rib cage into there boiler room and kills them :blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 (edited) How is the scenario so unlikely ? A man has just been jailed for his two pit bulls doing just what I described! Imagine sitting back and doing nothing then watching them kill a child playing in the street. Yes but was anyone driving past who happened to be coming back from clay shooting who had to make that decision? Also there are dogs and then there are dogs. I wouldn't for instance do a left and right on a pair of demented charging Jack Russels even out in the field; when this has happened in real life I've just sat down with outstretched palms and beckoned them in for playing which confuses them into behaving, I would also place their lives above an ankle bite I may suffer. Coming across a scene with an out of control, truly dangerous dog that couldn't be severely winded with a kick, whilst carrying a gun with enough time to react is just not going to happen. Edited September 2, 2012 by Hamster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul T Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 So you JUST happen to be carrying a gun JUST at the same moment a dog is attacking someone, it's too big to boot it away AND it's in a safe place to be able to shoot??!! Sorry matey, the whole scenario is so unlikely you may as well wait for the piano to fall out of the sky and kill it for you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n11tht Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 would i shoot it? no. i would how ever grab hold of the barrels and use the gun like a bat and hit it with the stock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royboy Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 I wouldn't for instance do a left and right on a pair of demented charging Jack Russels even out in the field :lol: :lol: :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazed Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 My mrs asked me a simmilar question as we have 5 dogs and would I put one down if it need to be done. Well I thort about it and to be honest I would not and could not. I go on the same lines as Gordon ring the plod and help all you can whilst they get there but leave the gun in the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greymaster Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 If you were in Essex and a lion was spotted sunning itself in a field as you were on your way to your permission would you ask the farmer if it would be OK to shoot the lion? Or would you contact your local Fireams Officer and put in a variation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 You could always just ring the police,then stand back and film the ensuing events on your phone;then send it to one of the major news stations,and then we could all watch it on news at 10 and have a laugh;just like the last one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkhawk67 Posted September 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 (edited) I did read your post. Perhaps you should have read mine. You seem intent in encouraging someone to say that they would shoot the dog. Put up or shut up. If you would shoot the dog - have the courage to say so. Don't ask others the question you won't answer. Where in my original post did I ask people if they would shoot the dog ?? I asked if I would be in trouble if I shot the dog !! You really should take the time to read things and not jump to conclusions. Edited September 2, 2012 by Yorkhawk67 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicykillgaz Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 (edited) I'd make good use of my gutting knife first, but if that failed and I could take a safe shot Id like to think I'd be selfless enough to risk losing my guns to save a child. I can't see any judge wanting to be the man who sent someone down for saving a child, I think you'd lose your guns at worse and think that would be harsh under the circumstances. Edited September 2, 2012 by bicykillgaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stokie Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 I've been in this situation . The local scrote has a Rottweiler that attacked an old man outside my house who foolishly picked up his own small dog as it came bounding towards him . The dog grabbed the old boys arm and pulled him to the ground shaking him like a doll. Me my dad and a neighbour heard the mans screams for help . We kicked it we punched it my dad put a finger up it jacksy . All the things you hear that you should do . A dog in a rage is a difficult beast . At no point would we of had time to fetch a gun . The neighbour ran back and grabbed his shovel and hit it over the head splitting its scull. It didn't let go until he'd done it three times . It was a scary few minutes . The owner was not prosecuted because the dog was destroyed . But the old man died a week later in hospital never recovering from his injuries he was 80 years old . If I had been in a situation where I could of shot it then I would . Maybe the old man would have made it and I would have taken my chances with the law . It's a difficult question to ask but the chances are very slim of the situation ever happening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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