tweedledee Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 (edited) The ultra is does not use the 525 action or woodwork the balance is totally different shoot a 525 then an ultra, you don't know what your talking about what a muppet sorry lad but i have,you have your opinion and i have mine.. little mention of the ultra using a different action here http://www.gunmart.net/gun_review/browning_ultra_xs_prestige/ Edited December 10, 2012 by tweedledee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashley c Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 I've been shooting only for two years and started out with a beretta 686e with victory chokes. Last year I had some 2k eating a hole in my pocket and wanted a new gun after looking at loads off different guns read all the reviews ect I was set on finding a browning cynigery black ice carbon 32" got it second hand at a good price from a nother pw member it took me a while to get it set up for me and after a bit of practice its the best gun I've ever owned. It's built for sporting clays from the ground up its got a low action nice soft stock pad doesn't jump with recoil too much and it should be a long lasting hard wearing gun I've put over a thousand carts through mine with no faults. They got an adjustable Combe spacers for the stock pad three different triggers one curved for a right handed shooter a wide one and a thin one there three position adjustable. It's a rearly good package for a gun and makes me wonder why dt10 and other guns like that are so much more money the cynergy also comes with a adjustable wood stock wort a look Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Poon Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 I've been shooting only for two years and started out with a beretta 686e with victory chokes. Last year I had some 2k eating a hole in my pocket and wanted a new gun after looking at loads off different guns read all the reviews ect I was set on finding a browning cynigery black ice carbon 32" got it second hand at a good price from a nother pw member it took me a while to get it set up for me and after a bit of practice its the best gun I've ever owned. It's built for sporting clays from the ground up its got a low action nice soft stock pad doesn't jump with recoil too much and it should be a long lasting hard wearing gun I've put over a thousand carts through mine with no faults. They got an adjustable Combe spacers for the stock pad three different triggers one curved for a right handed shooter a wide one and a thin one there three position adjustable. It's a rearly good package for a gun and makes me wonder why dt10 and other guns like that are so much more money the cynergy also comes with a adjustable wood stock wort a look now your talking , the browning cynergy carbon fibre is a great bit of kit for busting clays it comes equall to my 725 sporter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alycidon Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 Keep your present gun, sounds like you are happy with it so that means it probably fits ok. I find beretta a different fit to Miroku /Browning, when I tried a 682 after using a 687 for 20 years it felt like a railway sleeper to me. A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retromlc Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 who cares how much money he's got! as for guns,i wouldn't worry about it being new,Truth is a new £2500 gun isn't that far away from a £1500,in terms of feel,only wood and slightly less cheap looking engraving seperates them,For £2500-£300 there are some quality used premier guns available.Iv'e spent way too much in the last 3 years on guns I thought I'd get on with.Only after a Gun fit at Holland and Holland i got a better idea of how much gun fit counts,i shoot my new to me Browning better than any gun i've owned,but it has adj comb and shoulder pad to fine tune. Anyway,I'd look at used Zoli's ,Blasers some Parazzis and Ceasar Gurinni's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrapFiller Posted December 11, 2012 Report Share Posted December 11, 2012 Buy a baikal and you'll have about 2850 for any other things you might need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denboy Posted December 11, 2012 Report Share Posted December 11, 2012 I'm also looking for a budget gun around £50,000-£60,000 mark any ideas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizza22196 Posted December 11, 2012 Report Share Posted December 11, 2012 I know they are completely different to a beretta but it may be worth having a play with a miroku or browning that fits your budget as you may find you prefer them to a beretta If £3k is low-mid range, what does that make my £30 SxS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pontbeck Posted December 11, 2012 Report Share Posted December 11, 2012 Some folk on here are obsessed with the fact the OP has that kind of money to spend on a gun, that`s life !! I have friends that I shoot with who have all manner of guns from those that cost less than £ 300 to one friend who is extremely wealthy and has just bought a matched pair for £ 59000. That doesn`t make him any better or worse than the rest of us. He also has a top of the range Range Rover and a house set in 4 acres. Don`t be jealous it doesn`t get you anywhere. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich_morris Posted December 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2012 Guys, thanks for all the inputs, although a lot of people have simply questioned what 'Mid Price' means. From my simple perspective, I can pick up a gun for £30, or £30,000. Mid price is technically in the middle of that = £15K. As stated before, I do not feel I have to justify what I spend, and on what. £2500 is a lot of money for me, but I have no other vices, so choose to spend as I wish. If you have nothing tio add to my qyestion, then perhaps chgoose to ignore it?? Sorry if that sounds grumpy (its not menat to!), but the thread seems to be esacalating without any real value to anyone? Thanks Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retromlc Posted December 11, 2012 Report Share Posted December 11, 2012 Some folk on here are obsessed with the fact the OP has that kind of money to spend on a gun, that`s life !! I have friends that I shoot with who have all manner of guns from those that cost less than £ 300 to one friend who is extremely wealthy and has just bought a matched pair for £ 59000. That doesn`t make him any better or worse than the rest of us. He also has a top of the range Range Rover and a house set in 4 acres. Don`t be jealous it doesn`t get you anywhere. Bill good post,People having a dig about the quote about midprice gun just smells and is not productive Money doesn't come easy and if he has worked very hard and risked a lot and it's paid off then I'm very happy for him,a lot of people work hard but it doesn't always pay,that's life. I've run a business for 13 years and it's hard work so if I want to spend my hard earned then it shouldn't bother anyone. I don't think £3000 is a lot of money personally,especially if it's his hobby,I also race Enduro and have an old bike,I know lads who change their bikes every 2 years,a new bike is £7000 and they sell their used one for £3000. For my 50th I'm saving for a £13k gun I like,it won't make me shoot better but it could make all my hard work feel worth it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted December 11, 2012 Report Share Posted December 11, 2012 Guys, thanks for all the inputs, although a lot of people have simply questioned what 'Mid Price' means. From my simple perspective, I can pick up a gun for £30, or £30,000. Mid price is technically in the middle of that = £15K. As stated before, I do not feel I have to justify what I spend, and on what. £2500 is a lot of money for me, but I have no other vices, so choose to spend as I wish. If you have nothing tio add to my qyestion, then perhaps chgoose to ignore it?? Sorry if that sounds grumpy (its not menat to!), but the thread seems to be esacalating without any real value to anyone? Thanks Rich Just ignore the knockers and enjoy what you buy... life is too short to worry about what other people think Psssst buy the Browning .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted December 11, 2012 Report Share Posted December 11, 2012 For my 50th I'm saving for a £13k gun I like,it won't make me shoot better but it could make all my hard work feel worth it I did a similar thing for my 40th, only it wasn't as much as 13K (though probably similar in real terms). Now 15 years on from that - I've never regretted it, still have the gun - and still enjoy it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pontbeck Posted December 11, 2012 Report Share Posted December 11, 2012 I did a similar thing for my 40th, only it wasn't as much as 13K (though probably similar in real terms). Now 15 years on from that - I've never regretted it, still have the gun - and still enjoy it Me likewise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdSolomons Posted December 11, 2012 Report Share Posted December 11, 2012 No point working hard and not enjoying it. I'm gig to be ordering something very special next year. I have no problem justifying it, I work hard for it and this is my chosen sport so I recon it's a good a call as any. Plus it will likely be worth a lot more than I paid for it in 20 years time. Yo only live once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted December 11, 2012 Report Share Posted December 11, 2012 No point working hard and not enjoying it. I'm gig to be ordering something very special next year. I have no problem justifying it, I work hard for it and this is my chosen sport so I recon it's a good a call as any. Plus it will likely be worth a lot more than I paid for it in 20 years time. Yo only live once. Give us a clue then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr salt Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 (edited) just make sure it fits you and you like the way it handles. price of the gun is not the issue. if it shoots where you look and costs £50 your scores are going to be more than with a £3000 gun which doesnt. choice is almost endless. try as many as you can before you buy. Edited December 12, 2012 by mr salt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdSolomons Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 Give us a clue then Same spec K80 as I currently have but letting them go nuts on the engraving :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 Very nice, I keep looking at them when Im at Bywell (cant afford one) Can I remember you saying they are a different gun to shoot? ie harder to get used to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MITCHF Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 Browning Ultra XS Prestige or take a look at a Zoli :-) Always leave the house with an empty gun slip over your shoulder, come back full, she'll never know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdSolomons Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 Very nice, I keep looking at them when Im at Bywell (cant afford one) Can I remember you saying they are a different gun to shoot? ie harder to get used to? Depends where your coming from style/technique wise mate. They don't respond well to lots of gun movement, which you can get away with in other guns a bit. Hold and pickup points are key but once you learn to get the best out of it you will never shoot another gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yickdaz Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 3800 were and still are great guns.in my opinion the best they ever made theres a case for the mk 38 just a thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retromlc Posted December 13, 2012 Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 Browning Ultra XS Prestige or take a look at a Zoli :-) Always leave the house with an empty gun slip over your shoulder, come back full, she'll never know i've owned both those guns,Zoli's are very good and very under rated by shooters because they are not made by the main contenders, but I get on better with my Ultra XS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich_morris Posted December 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 Hi I am set on new. For my own reasons. I am going to have a look at a local shop/range at the weekend, and will look at:- Beretta 686 Evo Beretta Sv10 Browning 525 (Does an Ultra XS handle much differently?) Browning 725 Miroku MK38 Thiis cover what they have in stock mostly. They also have a caesar guerini, which I will try, but may be beyond my price range. I will be looking at 30" or 32" barrels. These are all low on the original quoted price (that should please some!!! ) But may upgrade on the model if I can. I will put the rest towardssome coachning I think. Thanks for help. Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee Posted December 13, 2012 Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 mate,any of the above will be a fine gun.... get what fits you best and you feel most comfortable with... and most of all enjoy your shooting.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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