Lock Stock & Barrel Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 Errrr any nut nut wanting to waste hours on an e-petition can crack on. Absolute waste of time. Massively naive and a complete lack of awareness IMHO but hey, everyone needs a hobby / waste of time eh? Semi auto rifles are gone for good as too handguns. Get used to it, and move on. Don't kid yourself that by seeking the legalisation of semi auto rifles and handguns is helping shooting. Fighting to keep what we have would be a better and more realistic pursuit. Don't let me stop anyone getting all spitting over the screen angry about this recurring topic. Seriously, go mad. Launch as many pointless ePetitions as your electricity and internet providers will allow you are only wasting your own time and energy. This ^^^^^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonwolf444 Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 " putting across the view that we can think of nothing but getting guns back when the rest of the world is still mourning the loss of those innocent little lives. I am all for taking issue with what the Government have done to the sport but there is a time and a place." Still mourning the loss of those 22 innocent children who all got stabbed as they left school, havent touched a knife since, dont see why anyone would need one when you can just use the side of a fork. (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2248054/China-stabbing-22-children-elderly-woman-stabbed-outside-primary-school-Chinese-knifeman.html) the media will report what it likes, do what it likes and in the end it wont matter what the media says because reality is often different. I dont remember any reviews of knife laws and midnight viduals for the dead after that mass killing. Im going to sign the petition. Why? because we are constantly on the defence, trying to defend our needs for gun ownership, i think its good that we are questioning our government, no head way will be made if we just defend what we have if you want change, we have to be offencive and push to get back the sport some of us once loved and many of us will never get to try. I believe in the gun rights struggle in the UK, and im signing this because its part of that movement and because i will not stand in a line in 10 years 20 years 50 years time handing in my guns to be angle grinded up looking accross at all the people i once enjoyed shooting with asking why didnt anyone say anything sooner. Every single day the pre gun ban movements are trying to foster support for their issue, and every single day we do nothing, go shooting, and pretend that we are against no real threat of having them taken off us. I am contantly apauled by our own excuses for our own apathy. However "poorly timed" or "badly written" or no matter how many spelling mistakes the petitions we sign might have they must be signed, they embody the voice of the people who care, and without people behind it without the voice of the shooting community behind it its just more words on a piece of paper, its easy to ignore, but the conviction of thousands of people is harder to ignore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 (edited) You are so right Mungler....i should just roll over and give my guns in afterall they will only probably take them in a few years anyway right? LOL that wasn't what he said at all, he said the laws that have been brought in aren't going to change and no government is going to think about these with the very recent spate of shootings in the USA. Handguns are available to those with true need but they can't be bought as play things centerfire rifles are gone for good. You can get as flustered as you like but most of the shooting world won't support your petition as they have an element of common sense about them. The thing with this kind of petition is I do wonder whether it will highlight a potential nut job as the author and get a bit of investigation done and checks with your licensing authorities with a large red highlight on your file. If not it quite probably should. Edited January 16, 2013 by al4x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steppenwolf Posted January 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 "The thing with this kind of petition is I do wonder whether it will highlight a potential nut job as the author and get a bit of investigation done and checks with your licensing authorities with a large red highlight on your file. If not it quite probably should." It is worrying when the general public think like this nevermind actual gun owners. "Oh look he had an unorthodox idea, wasn't breaking any laws but hey we'll have to arrest him anyway just incase". I guess if you feel like it you can report me to the Department of Pre-Crime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 so another way what do you want a hand gun and semi auto centerfire for? the bunnies round you got a bit of attitude or the foxes wearing body armour? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boristhedog Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 so another way what do you want a hand gun and semi auto centerfire for? the bunnies round you got a bit of attitude or the foxes wearing body armour? Target shooting maybe.....from memory it used to be quite fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steppenwolf Posted January 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 Exactly, plus I am sure you could also hunt with a semi-auto as well. I mean if you can use a semi-auto 22 to hunt why would it be such a no no to use a semi-auto centrefire to do so? Practical shooting as well as it is done in many countries with both SEMI-AUTO CENTREFIRE HANDGUNS and also SEMI-AUTO CENTREFIRE RIFLES. Fastest growing shooting sport in the UK. http://www.ipsc.org/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 Usually this kind of thread by someone new means said user is a re incarnation of a banned nutter. It's starting to drop into place now.............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steppenwolf Posted January 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 "so another way what do you want a hand gun and semi auto centerfire for? the bunnies round you got a bit of attitude or the foxes wearing body armour?" That is a very good point boristhedog, people like this like to divide the issue to make gun owners hate each other. "I own a bolt action rifle for shooting and I hate those semi-automatics. I am alright since my hobby although politically incorrect it is tolerated for the time being." I support hunters, people with muzzel loading firearms, bolt-rifles, over and under shotguns and even kooky re-enactors with deactivated firearms, those wanting the hunting ban repealed etc. I do not ask them why they need those guns and try to make justifications for baning them, if I did I might as well join RSPCA or GCN, I am pretty sure If i was so heartless I could make a very good argument for banning hunting and bolt action rifles but I don't so I don't understand why all this: What good is this semi-auto pistol, what good is this semi-auto rifle. Let me just remind you that in most of Europe target shooting with semi-automatic centrefire pistols and rifles is still allowed, to most of the world it is us British that are weird. Usually this kind of thread by someone new means said user is a re incarnation of a banned nutter. It's starting to drop into place now.............. I will ignore that comment, don't want to fuel the fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 my money is on Masterzone being back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonwolf444 Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 i have no need for either a handgun or a semi auto centerfire, I live in the country and most my shooting is pest controll i wouldnt pest control with a semi auto .. Should i move to a city or whatever i would like to oppertunity to carry on shooting at target ranges and clubs, in which case there are a whole host of fun competitions associated with these guns which take place all the time and noone gets hurt, the law denies law abiding citizens from owning guns for partaking in these activities, which i one reason why i would support its revokation. People dont need black powder revolvers for rabbit shooting, but the world of shooting does actually extend past that of pest control. But i guess im a nutter for supporting this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 I don't know but the other 7 names on the petition obviously agree, still its only another 99,992 people to convince before the PM gets to hear about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steppenwolf Posted January 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 People dont need black powder revolvers for rabbit shooting, but the world of shooting does actually extend past that of pest control. But i guess im a nutter for supporting this? Yes you should be ashamed of yourself for having such views, lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 so another way what do you want a hand gun and semi auto centerfire for? the bunnies round you got a bit of attitude or the foxes wearing body armour? Hand gun for target shooting. Just the same as some have a .22 for target shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 Handguns are available to those with true need but they can't be bought as play things centerfire rifles are gone for good. The thing with this kind of petition is I do wonder whether it will highlight a potential nut job as the author and get a bit of investigation done and checks with your licensing authorities with a large red highlight on your file. If not it quite probably should. Wrong on so many levels I'm afraid. Handguns are available to both those with a 'true need' and without, and can also be bought as 'play things'.Centre-fire rifles are still with us and thriving,if this forum is anything to go by. Your second sentence is exactly how all of us,including you, are perceived by antis and an unknowledgeable public. All that aside I'm left with a bit of a problem.It's my bezzie mate you see.He is divorced,lives alone,has enough firearms to start a small uprising,has a vast collection of militaria(guns,shells,bayonets,helmets,knives etc) and gun related books,watches violent films,is ex-forces,and on a Friday night,instead of going out and getting blathered and then looking for someones head to turn inside out(of which he is more than capable) has a few mates around and they all play 'Black Op's' on the PS3.He's also a former handgun owner. Now I know this will have set alarms ringing,and a certain few peoples 'nut nut' detectors will now be working overtime,so I need a bit of advice.The problem is,who do I report him to?He's very obviously a threat,but do I report him to the same people who vetted him? Or his GP,who was also consulted prior to the authorities granting him his renewal? Or his neighbours?After all it's usually the neighbours who are quoted on the news as saying 'he was just an ordinary bloke';he'd do owt for you'.Tricky one really. Unless I'm very much mistaken there wasn't a handgun nor a centre-fire rifle in sight(until the Police arrived) during the West Cumbria shootings. Him and me and one or two others are going down to Mendip sometime,for a go on the .50 cal's.Damn...perhaps I should hand myself in also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzthompson Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 so another way what do you want a hand gun and semi auto centerfire for? the bunnies round you got a bit of attitude or the foxes wearing body armour? You sound exactly like some anti's ive spoken too when talking about my O/U or 2+1 autos. Why do you want this? Why do you want that? soon we will all be relegated to nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 Still only masterzone and 7 others this petition is taking a while to get going Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzthompson Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 It will probably get nowhere. Signed anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 (edited) I shoot pigeons mate, so sat in a hide with an AK47 or chasing bunnies around a field with a berreta 9mm aint really my thing so i wont be signing either.Just think how much more damage a **** like derrick bird wouldve done if instead of a shotty and single shot small calibre rifle, he went running round with an M16! and with all the school shootings in America and that nutter in Norway I'm quite happy with things as they are What i would expect to here from anti gun forums. i dont know about you, but the shootings we've had in this country recently have been bad enough, the last thing i want to see is another HUNGERFORD! In Hungerford 16 people were murdered semi-auto rifle and handgun. . In Cumbria 12 people were shot with a shotgun and .22 rifle. Follow your logic and they should ban all firearms. Edited January 16, 2013 by ordnance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibspoon Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 Signed, because I quite fancy a bit with an SLR at a range. That doesn't make me a walt or a fantasist. I don't need to fantasize about that sort of thing, I've got Britney Spears and a jacuzzie full of custard for that. Most people shoot in part, at least, for enjoyment. There is nowt wrong with that, and I'll support any form of shooting in this country because it needs any support it can get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 Keep going boys. We can keep checking back to see how it's getting on Realism and self awareness is a wonderful thing. You should all get in touch with the UK division of the NRA to get them to give this some PR and a push. Oh hang on, they probably have more sense, better things to do with their time and wouldn't want to waste any money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12boreblue Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 Shhhhhh!!! Now is not the time to start asking for more lenient gun laws, kids have just been murdered again in Americ! this is to sensitive an issue at the moment. What we need is some positive news regarding shooting prior to any campaign for shooting rights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paxtond Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 Keep going boys. We can keep checking back to see how it's getting on Realism and self awareness is a wonderful thing. You should all get in touch with the UK division of the NRA to get them to give this some PR and a push. Oh hang on, they probably have more sense, better things to do with their time and wouldn't want to waste any money. its a shame the uk NRA don't fight for us like the us counterpart. like i said i doubt we will get anything back but its worth a try for the sake of 1 min Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 You should all get in touch with the UK division of the NRA to get them to give this some PR and a push. The UK NRA are the last organisation to ask for support;they couldn't even support their own members when it was called for so they certainly wouldn't give a toss for the thoughts of a pigeon shooting forum. Nice try Steppenwolf,but I haven't signed,nor will I be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steppenwolf Posted January 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 For me it is not about the numbers of the petition it feels like I am actually doing something instead of just sitting on my butt. I get plenty people from work and aquaintaces shooting, so doing that part. Writing to local mps to ask if they support legal gun ownership, check, lobby when it comes to laws. Supported the push against WH Smiths, check, so actually I do quite a lot but sometimes it feels like not enough. Oh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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