rb5037 Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 Just sorting my shooting bits for Wednesday and a bag containing 50 odd cartridges have got wet. (flooded garage) To save "firing blanks" I'm going to dispose of them (i did produce a baby not long ago so don't start, i can prove it if you want with pictures ) Where should i dispose them?? Back in 30 mins for find the answer Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 Keep them for fireworks night and then sneak them / throw them onto the bonfire of someone you don't like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rb5037 Posted October 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 WOW! ! ! That was moved quick This is a better home for the question i suppose Keep them for fireworks night and then sneak them / throw them onto the bonfire of someone you don't like. LOL! Was thinking of putting them in the in laws gas fire, just to liven up the evening one night (That above was a joke, and i would never even think of doing it............ hang on i did..... ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the last engineer Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 cut and remove powder and shot, dispose of powder as a burn off in a outdoor fire, then in the field fire off your primer case in a safe direction . Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 i think some one said on here that you cant open a shell over here against the law.is that right.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 You may laugh, but a friend of mine recently lost her husband. When she found a box containing about 300 rounds of 12g, she phoned the police to ask what to do. I'm glad I was standing by the bonfire to stop her! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatingisbest Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 i think some one said on here that you cant open a shell over here against the law.is that right.? I believe you need an explosives licence to take apart cartridges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rb5037 Posted October 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 ..........................................................STOP THE PRESS............................................................... I've just found another 100 and there's no way I'm cutting 150+ and then putting them through the two barrels. Anyone want some for clay shooting? If it don't go bang shout "PULL" again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 Bring faulty/unused cartridges either back to an RFD or to the police station. They will dispose of it safely. As stated above, do not cut them open yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devon Fox Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 Sell them ! (only kidding!) I would take hunters advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rarms Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 Take em to the police station. Did that recently with a load of primers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 Rat on yourself to old bill. I'm sure if they think you're a possible terrorist suspect they'll take 'em in to custody no problem! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the last engineer Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 why is it ilegal to unload cartridges back home??? i cant see the problem if done safely, how do reloaders deal with duff carts and or shells . id like to know if anyone can tell me, and no im not being facetious in genuinely interested Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatingisbest Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 why is it ilegal to unload cartridges back home??? i cant see the problem if done safely, how do reloaders deal with duff carts and or shells . id like to know if anyone can tell me, and no im not being facetious in genuinely interested Martin Reloaders have explosives licences which i believe are free, this also enables them to unload cartridges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 The reason behind this is that unloading shotgun carts and using the powder in bombs is a risk since the shotgun cartridges themselves can be owned without a licence. Its a law to prevent, or atleast allow the law to prosecute possible bomb makers before something bad does happen. I will add to my above message, that digging a deep hole in a damp soil area (where no digging work will take place shortly after) and placing the shells into the hole will quickly destroy them. Moister will seep into the powder, primer, oxidise the lead (turn it into powder) and rust away the metal casing all in quick order, rendering them into nothing but soily plastic cases as found in the woods after previous hunters (who leave their empties behind ) However police/RFD disposal of carts is always the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 It`s to do with Guy Fawlkes and the IRA but it would be impossible to police............or is big bro watching. Send them to me I`ll "sort them" out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 If you end up sticking them through a gun, make damn sure the wadding clear the barrel before you stick another one in behind it, the results of not doing so can be very serious. I have put a few cut up cartridges on fires, oudoors and indoors I am to admit and they do go off with a hell of a bang, so if you go down that route, be careful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mry716 Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 Reloaders have explosives licences which i believe are free, this also enables them to unload cartridges They were until earlier this year - I have just renewed for three years at a cost of £105 but have just been informed they have gone up again to over £40 pa. Shooting is getting expensive ! Re your question:- Try placing them in an open top box on a thick layer of cotton wool. Carry them gingerly into the Police Station and explain to the desk Sergeant that they are live rounds liable to explode at any time............................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the last engineer Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 The reason behind this is that unloading shotgun carts and using the powder in bombs is a risk since the shotgun cartridges themselves can be owned without a licence. Its a law to prevent, or atleast allow the law to prosecute possible bomb makers before something bad does happen. I will add to my above message, that digging a deep hole in a damp soil area (where no digging work will take place shortly after) and placing the shells into the hole will quickly destroy them. Moister will seep into the powder, primer, oxidise the lead (turn it into powder) and rust away the metal casing all in quick order, rendering them into nothing but soily plastic cases as found in the woods after previous hunters (who leave their empties behind ) However police/RFD disposal of carts is always the best. thanks Hunter, i recall the regs now, and i beleive i have also added before that when i deactivate rounds for my own collection i put them in a pail/bucket/tin full of WD40 it takes a few days to soak in but will render the powder and primer useless, you can hit it with a tank if you wish, just another way, i guess being paper carts they will fall apart quite quickly anyway. Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 But modern nitro powder is not an explosive, it is only black powder that you need a licence for. It is not illegal to own shotgun cartridges without a licence, it is only illegal to buy them. I have cut up a lot of cartridges which have got wet or gone rusty and tipped the shot in the bin and fired the primer in a gun. Normally used for dog training. How wet did these cartridges get. Because unless they were submerged for a long period I wouldn't worry about it and just use them. Stuart's comment about the wad is a very valid point, I had a wad stuck in a barrel by a cartridge that didn't have a full charge of powder in it. The shot that I put in behind it cleared it for me but it left a nice bulge in my bottom barrel. It took about 6 months of arguing and a proof house report but Rottweil finally paid for a new barrel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 Bimey, don't fancy that. Martin, you got your F3 specifically insured / nominated on a policy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 Bimey, don't fancy that. Martin, you got your F3 specifically insured / nominated on a policy? Our house insurance states anything over £1,000 in value needs to be itemised, but guess what? yes, they just bump your premium up a notch or two, funny that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 I have got £5000 cover for sporting items on my home insurance. That should cover it. The gun that bulged was a Baikal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter_HMR Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 i'd say cut em up and burn off the powder all you need is a sharp knife and a bit of time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mry716 Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 Fister, You don't need a licence to reload but if like me you reload and have a selection of Nitro powders that exceed 5Kg/10lbs then you need an explosives licence. Also remember this limit of 10lbs is per house not per person. So someone whose father also reloads but different Cals is almost certainly going to require a licence. Whatever, the new legislation has altered quite a few aspects of reloading and you need to be completely 'au fait' with the detail to ensure you are on the right side of the law. Reloading for others is one area which is ill defined and presently to all intents and purposes makes illegal. I am in consultation with the Home Office on this point but whatever you do never reload for others without at least £5million Personal Liability and Product Liability Insurance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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