angustusgloop Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 Just wondering if I'm alone. This last 2 years especially, with REAL hidden inflation, it's got to the stage I just don't have the cash to pay for few, if any, Registered shoots. I have seen many of my shooting pals also fall by the wayside financially over this period, for the same reason, the skyrocketing costs of food and fuel have pretty much forced us into 'hibernation'. I wonder if the full-weekend events are discouraging a lot of cash-strapped shooters too? After all, unless you are local, finding the cash for 2 back-to-back shoots, accommodation and fuel costs, are making this very much, a 'rich man's game'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Poon Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 I can see your point , I've never really broken down my expenditures for this hobby but by the looks of it my bill comes to about £130 per week on clay shooting and that's with no reg comps , I've only done two comps on the last month or so , so that's another 30 ish pounds on top , it doesn't help mind you that I have to travel nearly 2 1/2 hours round trip to my nearest club on Tuesdays I'm glad my wife ain't on this forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc0tt Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 £130? It costs me £18 for a sporting 70 at both of my local grounds (and these are the expensive ones) cartridges on top £11.80 and then fuel to get there. £40 tops. Last weekend cost me a grand though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Poon Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 £130? It costs me £18 for a sporting 70 at both of my local grounds (and these are the expensive ones) cartridges on top £11.80 and then fuel to get there. £40 tops. Last weekend cost me a grand though about 250 clays / cartridges per week that's just over £90 ,then diesel is about £25 then food on top , that's a general figure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirDread Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 Shooting club level April onwards I generally do a 150 carts a week at £24. About £25 in clays, and about £40 in fuel, I dont count food cos I have to eat wether I am shooting or not Last year though I found a local shoot thats 20 mins away and once you join (£40 per ann) its only £12 per 100 clays and theres some good targets on so thats save me a few quid. Shooting CPSA events 100 birds event typically £35 entry, Carts mixed selection £20 Everywhere seems to be a 3 hour round trip on average so fuels about £30 as well so give or take £85 per event and I am trying to do 2 events per month this year Not a cheap hobby at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustJon Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 (edited) Is that being priced out or is it salary increases not keeping up with inflation and hence we can't fund the lifestyles we once had? Edited March 6, 2013 by JustJon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Poon Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 I suppose it can get expensive , but like I say , work hard play hard , it's not like you can take it with you when your 6 ft under . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 I don't drink - I don't smoke. One has to enjoy yourself somehow. Sure, times are hard and some people may not be fortunate enough to indulge in their hobbies at the moment, but if you are passionate enough about something - you can make it happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canis Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 on the one hand our sport does cost quite highly on the consumables -100 carts and clays for a mornings shooting will cost between £40 & £50 dependant on where /what carts are going bang . on the other hand the £600 gun i bought secondhand 10years ago is still worth at least £600. A skeet vest (£50) ear (£120)and eye protection (£150)should last 5 years plus. so at 100shots a a fortnight £1300 per year specialist equipment skeet vests eyes and ears cleaning kit etc call it another £100 per year. ok this looks expensive compared to a 40 pound per month gym membership (£480 per year) but its a lot less than the average golf membership, and looks positively cheap compared to sailing or flying ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delburt0 Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 Shooting club level April onwards I generally do a 150 carts a week at £24. About £25 in clays, and about £40 in fuel, I dont count food cos I have to eat wether I am shooting or not Last year though I found a local shoot thats 20 mins away and once you join (£40 per ann) its only £12 per 100 clays and theres some good targets on so thats save me a few quid. Shooting CPSA events 100 birds event typically £35 entry, Carts mixed selection £20 Everywhere seems to be a 3 hour round trip on average so fuels about £30 as well so give or take £85 per event and I am trying to do 2 events per month this year Not a cheap hobby at all which is the local ground that is 20 mins away ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMMER BURT Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 iam closer to 5-7k a year in total, and thats with out paying for new guns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 Fuel costs are the killer for everyone! !00 bird practice costs me £63.00 with clays,shells and fuel. It`s making it expensive for sure ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil3728 Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 Before I gave up last year, my golf membership was £1000, per year that was before any consumables such as balls and tee's. My Mrs has horses, so now i only shoot there is no real complaints about my spending as long as i'm at home to do my share of the kiddy duties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angustusgloop Posted March 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 Is that being priced out or is it salary increases not keeping up with inflation and hence we can't fund the lifestyles we once had? Yes, I meant that. I've seen food & fuel (gas, elec & water) just take all my spare cash. I dinnae smoke or drink either... I think I could try to get to a registered shoot at least once a month if I scrimp. But what's the point if all the big competitions are 2-day events that are just too expensive. We also need more youngsters coming through, but without a generous dad, I don't see how they could afford these either. I suppose my message to shoot organisers is, try to make the comps a 1-day event, otherwise it will increasingly be the biggest wallets that compete for the silverware, not the best shots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodo123 Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 I think they should open up the competition structure more, have league tables and not have to be cpsa registered, OR open a new group other than the CPSA to run more localized comps with club vs club and then county vs county etc, how many other sports are their where you don't have to have the place vetted everytime a comp happens. This I think would encourage more people into competition who may not have access due to financial constraints and those which simply don't want to travel miles. I can see the work that the CPSA put in Dont get me wrong but sometimes to pay for that privilege puts a lot of shooters off. Plus the club's holding these comps wouldn't have much more expense than a normal round of clays... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMMER BURT Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 my mate simon spends 10k yes 10k a year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 i dont clay shhoot as much as i did,got a bit dear now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymouslemming Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 It's not a cheap sport, but it's cheaper than some, which is why I moved to it. I've not had a payrise in 3 years now (0% each year) and my wife stopped working (not voluntarily!) in 2010 so our finances took a big hit. That meant I had to give up my more expensive hobbies (skydiving, golf on occasion and motorcycling). For me, it's fine. Selling my skydiving gear paid for my guns and the cabinet, and a day's skydiving (with fuel, food, and 5 jumps) came in at around 165 quid. A day's shooting (100 clays total, 50 clays each) comes in at about 70 quid if I go to A1 or 60 quid if I cross the river to Dartford. And this way my wife gets to do something with me instead of sitting around watching. It also doesn't take up the whole day, so it's easier on the marriage. If I was shooting 4 years ago in the same financial position, I probably wouldn't be able to afford it anymore. My tax bill has gone up. Petrol, gas, electricity and food have gone up a LOT in that 4 year period. Without inflation beating pay rises, I can see how people get to the position where they can't take part any more. It's sad, but the economy is only going to get even worse as we outsource more and more work to foreign shores and automate what little manufacturing and work remains in the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salop Matt Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 Yikes, Me and the Mrs get £50 per month pocket money each. For me that has to cover cartridges, gun maintaniance, clay costs, annual insurance renual, any new shooting kit, entrance to shooting shows, air rifle shooting costs license renewal and any other shooting costs. So i end up clay shooting once a month, if i can get out rough shooting then thats free apret from kit used, cartridges and a bottle at chistmas for the farmer ! So if i want any volume of shooting then I have to save or shoot the air rifle (no hardship as i love that too) also if i get out on the bunnys and sell them to the butcher it puts a very little bit back into my pocket. I couldnt affor the time or money though to clay shoot every weekend ! And am not sure I would want to if I could afford it as i wouldnt want it to feel a chore or lose the enjoyment of it ! ATB Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clay scarer Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 Same here, I used to be able to go clay shooting most weekends but now with the rocketing cost of fuel & cartridges I can`t go as often as i`d like too. It`s kind of the same with pigeon shooting too wich used to be just fuel (wich was`nt too bad as I did`nt have to travel more than 15 miles one way) & cartridges but I`ve now lost my permissions to people that pay the farmer . I remember when he used to buy me a slab of 250 cartridges & said "go get em" but if someone is going to pay him he`s not going to turn it down ! That also seem`s the norm now, people getting permission & selling day`s off & I just can`t compete with people that can afford to pay the farmer, buy cartridges & afford the fuel to travel with my wages wich have taken a dive due to redundancy & having to take a lower wage. Rant over, Regard`s, Daniel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jega Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 Pretty much like everyone else ,fuel and cartridge costs are the killer.I shoot clays once or twice a month the rest of the time i get the air rifles out . Like Daniel i too have lost a really good permission an a local golf course to a golf club comittee members relative, so i rely on a couple of mates to share our remaining permissions between us,not ideal but i suppose were lucky to have any permissions at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washerboy Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 fuel....dont get me started on that one I bought 250 cartridges for £35, the odd box at £4 just bought 2 boxs to try £10, prices for clays arent bad 22p each its about as cheap as a game of golf or fishing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Poon Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 (edited) If someone can tell me as I've not been shooting shotguns that long , what was the average price of 1k cartridges back 10 years or so ago ??( for argument sake there about £150 +\- now ) It's just that the other week I was asking my fellow members if anyone reloads themselves and most said no as it's cheaper buy them from a shop . Edited March 8, 2013 by Willpoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 i'm not that great at clays but enjoy the odd haybailer, still bloody dear though, £20ish for a hundred birds plus carts. or if i venture to the local club in deighton it's 35p a clay, that's a hell of a mark up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swingit Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 If someone can tell me as I've not been shooting shotguns that long , what was the average price of 1k cartridges back 10 years or so ago ??( for argument sake there about £150 +\- now ) It's just that the other week I was asking my fellow members if anyone reloads themselves and most said no as it's cheaper buy them from a shop . Hi mate. I was paying 60/70 pound a thousand for a good quality cart a little more than 10 year ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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