Elby Posted April 2, 2013 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 The 3 craziest dogs I've ever known and couldn't get anywhere near were a Lab x Shepherd, a Lab x Doberman and a Lab x Wire Haired Pointer. Anyway I've said all there is to say on my part, I'm off to catch a plane. Hope the OP see's sense but I think his mind was made up before he started this thread and just wanted a few people to justify his underlying desire to be a grass. Karma will pay him back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbart Posted April 2, 2013 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 Maybe your not anti any dog but your not the 1st person on here that seems to think labs cannot be as dangerous as 'muscle' breeds,the worst dog attack i have seen is from a labradoodle vs a grown man,he didnt have a chance save for the owner & bystanders managing to pull the dog off,if you cannot see that other dogs other then 'muscle' breeeds can be as much a danger then you sir are 'blind' Labs can bite as can any other mutt and arguing with someone with a pic of a bull terrier as there avatar about how nice and cuddly pitt bulls are is going nowhere so i guess we can agree to disagree eh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted April 2, 2013 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 I am with you on this one I am beging to think that quite a lot of people on here are ex trafic wordens Jobsworths the problem is not the dogs but the people who own them I no people who have Labradors that you would not want to get near to so why do we not ban them as well. people love reporting things here lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED BEARD Posted April 2, 2013 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 Ace, I don't agree with speed laws so I'm off out for a drive. I'll point the coppers to this thread if I get pulled and should then be let off so your saying that you've never broke the speed limit? because that is an offence and if you did you should have reported yourself to the police,but if you didn't report yourself you are the one that has your own levels of illegality based on your own ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED BEARD Posted April 2, 2013 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 Report it before an unsuspecting person buys one of these cute puppies not knowing what is hidden beneath. This woman sounds like she wouldn't hesitate to sell at any cost and that would include hiding the truth regards the mix. Good luck to anyone who trusts pits, but first hand experience tells me otherwise. you trust a dog on its own personality,not on its breed type.there are no bad breeds,just badly or un-trained dogs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alyshy Posted April 2, 2013 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 i have read this thread with great interest. I have bred Staffordshire Bull Terriers for a number of years and have known quite a few people with pitbulls. Why anyone would want to cross a lab with either a staffy or pitbull is beyond me. it is a mix that has shown over the years to be a bad one. If the OP decides to report it that is up to him. Personally i am not into mixed breeds so would not look at that sort of litter advertised. Any dog can be trained to bite, fight or attack but you cannot train a nasty dog to be nice and it is not always the owners fault! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alyshy Posted April 2, 2013 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 http://www.ehow.co.uk/list_6519877_strongest-dog-bites.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 The 3 craziest dogs I've ever known and couldn't get anywhere near were a Lab x Shepherd, a Lab x Doberman and a Lab x Wire Haired Pointer. Anyway I've said all there is to say on my part, I'm off to catch a plane. Hope the OP see's sense and reports it is the right answer KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabarm gamma boy Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 It is an offence to sell a dog crossed with a Pitt Bull. The choice is yours as to what you do but the officers wh ideal with Pitt Bulls would be interested and she either has one or likely knows someone who does. is it not american pitbull thats banned? I thought pitbulls were legal but american pitbulls were banned? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delburt0 Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 Poaching affects peoples lively hood a bunch of puppies don't Stupid question they do if they grow up and eat children :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westmids1987 Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 Labs can bite as can any other mutt and arguing with someone with a pic of a bull terrier as there avatar about how nice and cuddly pitt bulls are is going nowhere so i guess we can agree to disagree eh. Havn't said their all cuddley,however my staffie defiantly is,however what i am trying to say is no to discrimination due to breed,and try and change peoples opinions of these breeds is it not american pitbull thats banned? I thought pitbulls were legal but american pitbulls were banned?Same thing,some people refer to staffis as pittbullz but their not,its not specifically american pittbull that is banned,its pittbull typeAtb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 Imho, its got ****** all to do with breed. People are always looking for somewhere to point the finger and its the easier option to blame a defenceless animal who knows no better. If this women is illegaly breeding she should be punished, no doubt about it. However, i still belive its morally wrong to put down an animal that is so easily trained. If pits can be trained to fight, logic dictates that they can also be trained the other way...Ok, try training a lurcher to not chase little furry things that run away, a lab to never pick things up in its mouth, a terrier to not kill rats. sure you can work on these things but any dog bred for any specific purpose will always have strong leanings. If the owners were trained tested and qualified your point is more valid - BUT some nut job kept an entire Pit and then bred from it the word DONUT comes to mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 The worrying thing about this thread is the number of 'experts' on what is in fact something which is illegal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 The other fascinating thing about this thread is those who are willing to abuse others for a differing viewpoint - must be a joy to be with these people. I'm all for offering an opinion but ramming it down peoples throat is a 'style' I abhor - just MPO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 This is a funny one and my concern would be why did the woman tell you over the phone if she didn't see it as a plus point, its very strange and in answer to Blackbart pits are still coming in as they get called different names followed by a wink. Have a look at Irish Staffies as one of the main routes that used to be used, I've seen some of the worst as my dad used to be an expert witness in identifying them through his work with a quarantine kennels that used to take in the seized ones from Luton, what I will say is some were great and some were the worst of the worst and not something I would trust at all. In this case the OP just wants to report it and forget about it they are illegal for good reason whether crossed they are a pretty ridiculous pairing and obviously just done for the cash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabarm gamma boy Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 (edited) Havn't said their all cuddley,however my staffie defiantly is,however what i am trying to say is no to discrimination due to breed,and try and change peoples opinions of these breeds Same thing,some people refer to staffis as pittbullz but their not,its not specifically american pittbull that is banned,its pittbull type Atb american pitbulls are not the same as the ones wee see here,they are a pitbull but a different strain if you like, alot taller and heavier set! Staffs are nothing like a pitbull i would never confuse them as i am pretty clued up on breeds! Its like the american staffordshire bull terrirer many dont even know the exist and are alot different to our pure breed staffies! atb fabarm Edited April 3, 2013 by fabarm gamma boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbust Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 I do not wish for animals to be put down for no reason, however I have to say that if this lady is intentionally breeding or is connected to someone who is breeding an illegal breed (all be it crossing it with another) then the authorities need to be told. I for one would be devastated if I did not report it and one of the pups injured or worse killed someone. The use of the word "grass" as a description of the OP because he is thinking about informing the authorities is totally out of order. I believe that anyone who has the concern that an illegal activity is going on, especially one which could possibly cause injury or death to an innocent person, has a moral obligation to pass on this information to the relevant agencies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscarsdad Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 I do not wish for animals to be put down for no reason, however I have to say that if this lady is intentionally breeding or is connected to someone who is breeding an illegal breed (all be it crossing it with another) then the authorities need to be told. I for one would be devastated if I did not report it and one of the pups injured or worse killed someone. The use of the word "grass" as a description of the OP because he is thinking about informing the authorities is totally out of order. I believe that anyone who has the concern that an illegal activity is going on, especially one which could possibly cause injury or death to an innocent person, has a moral obligation to pass on this information to the relevant agencies. Totally agree - I am surprised that the word "grass" is even considered on here amongst law abiding license holders...I always thought it was a colloquialism of the criminal underclass who may have something to hide themselves. Maybe I have completely misunderstood the term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westmids1987 Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 (edited) american pitbulls are not the same as the ones wee see here,they are a pitbull but a different strain if you like, alot taller and heavier set! Staffs are nothing like a pitbull i would never confuse them as i am pretty clued up on breeds! Its like the american staffordshire bull terrirer many dont even know the exist and are alot different to our pure breed staffies! atb fabarm Sorry i disagree a pittbull is an american pitbull,the 'pitts' we have here are most likely cross breeds but there isnt a breed standard in this country for 'pitts',and most are probably 'diluted' versions of their anerican counterparts,depending on which kennel club u ask an american staff is the 'show' strain of the american pitt,glad you can tell the difference as there was a pure bred pedigree papered staffie destroyed recently as someone thought it was a 'pittbull type' and Its measurments lined up with those of a pitt and was classified as a pitt and destroyed. Edited April 3, 2013 by westmids1987 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 I do not wish for animals to be put down for no reason, however I have to say that if this lady is intentionally breeding or is connected to someone who is breeding an illegal breed (all be it crossing it with another) then the authorities need to be told. I for one would be devastated if I did not report it and one of the pups injured or worse killed someone. The use of the word "grass" as a description of the OP because he is thinking about informing the authorities is totally out of order. I believe that anyone who has the concern that an illegal activity is going on, especially one which could possibly cause injury or death to an innocent person, has a moral obligation to pass on this information to the relevant agencies. In actual fact it might be classified as an offence to withhold this information. There is only one stupid law and ACPO have already said for its officers to not waste any time on it and the Conservatives have promised a repeal of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabarm gamma boy Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 Sorry i disagree a pittbull is an american pitbull,the 'pitts' we have here are most likely cross breeds but there isnt a breed standard in this country for 'pitts',and most are probably 'diluted' versions of their anerican counterparts,depending on which kennel club u ask an american staff is the 'show' strain of the american pitt,glad you can tell the difference as there was a pure bred pedigree papered staffie destroyed recently as someone thought it was a 'pittbull type' and Its measurments lined up with those of a pitt and was classified as a pitt and destroyed. hi mate i dont mean to come accross as a clever ****! Its just what iv read over the years aparently american stafordshires are not the same as ours at all! But that out of a dog book on breeds! I stand corected pitbulls are totaly banned in this country! i can generally tell the difference myself, personally the legs of a pit are longer its head is a different shape! Nothing surprises me anymore in this country Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westmids1987 Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 hi mate i dont mean to come accross as a clever ****! Its just what iv read over the years aparently american stafordshires are not the same as ours at all! But that out of a dog book on breeds! I stand corected pitbulls are totaly banned in this country! i can generally tell the difference myself, personally the legs of a pit are longer its head is a different shape! Nothing surprises me anymore in this country No mate i wasnt disagreeing with you on the american staffie,i totally agree it is different to ours,yeh if you properly look at then you can generally tell them apart,its the lines get blurry when people start crossing them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beeredup Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 REPORT IT! interesting cross breed!! would give you a cuddle and a carressing lick after rippng your arm off an beating you sensless with the soggy end lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabarm gamma boy Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 No worries mate! You know your dogs ill give you that! Its a shame they have a bad rep mainly due knobheads Its a shame as i think there a beutifull dog aswell! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highbird70 Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 :lol: Fetch....Thor...Fetch....back back.....3 minutes later.....dog comes back with a beater...ahahahhahahahahaahhaahahah REPORT IT! interesting cross breed!! would give you a cuddle and a carressing lick after rippng your arm off an beating you sensless with the soggy end lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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