il cacciatore Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 Since the world supply of oil will run out some day (some predict within the next 60 years stocks will start running out) don't you think that driving around in a car is a waste of the valuable resource by merely burning it for no good reason? Crude oil is the basis for so many plastic materials that have much more of a useful use than burning and given that CO2 emissions (and other pollutants) from cars are a large proportion of the overall carbon emitted then wouldn't it be much more sense just to ban private transport? Our dependence on fossil fuels (coal, gas, oil) isn't sustainable as these are finite resources which will absolutely without doubt run out some day so why don't we conserve them just now while we can by banning non useful means of using them? Would be interesting to see peoples opinions on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Pudding Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 Bloody hell , somebody else that watches the BBC ... Never mind banning owt , lets tax the hell out of it . all the best yis yp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pin Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 Why should I? If the "world" was interested enough then I would be driving a water powered car by now, those in power don;t want me to know about such things and so I play their game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the last engineer Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 I'm all for driving the bigest V8 truck i can with the worst gas milage possible. the plant i run derives 99% of its income from the oil and gas industry, is there an efficient alternative , i m sure there is, do i honestly think it will affect me in my lifetime NO. leave the oil companies alone get the auto indusrty to come clean with the real fuel efficient vehicles that are tucked away in some isolated patent room and you will see a cleaner enviroment, work on the rest of the indusrty after. Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darebear Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 im with martin on this one. a nice big dodge ram, or a GMC truck... then some real guzzler which does 0-60 in 3 seconds, and uses a pint of fuel just to start it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronttuk Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 never never not while im alive my main hobbie is my cars never ever ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGalway Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 Voted no. The question is most often (no reflection on or offence to the OP) posed by loony green fundamentalists. The world has problems yes, humans being their own worst enemy because of greed is one of them. Oil is both a comodity and a drug. But, in itself is not the problem. Like Pin said if we gave a damn we would indeed be driving clean technology cars,planes etc. I also disagree with this question as it's elitist. It assumes people live in cities and have access to public transport. I live 48 miles from the nearest city. A bus goes to it once or twice a week from here. Take away my car ya may as well shoot me because I'm restricted in almost all aspects of my life from there on in. I also disagree on the basis I live in a democracy (or a vague representation of one at least) I choose to drive my car as it's the best form of transport available to me right now. Present me with a clean affordable car that'll do all my current one does and I'd very happily swop tomorrow but it's my choice to drive my car and won't be taken from me without a fight. It may not sound like it, but I'm all for green clean energy. Can't wait for the first hydrogen powered cars, going to have solar panels, windmills and anything else I can think of on my house. But tell me what to do and what is banned and I'll tell ya where to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darebear Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 hmmmm well ok. i'll compromise. i'll drive a 'green_environmentally_friendly' car/truck, if it can still do 0-60 in 3 seconds. flat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGalway Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 hmmmm well ok. i'll compromise. i'll drive a 'green_environmentally_friendly' car/truck, if it can still do 0-60 in 3 seconds. flat. So would I. Until then I'm remaining boringly sensible... That is until I'm pulling a trailer and the fuel gauge drops faster dubya's confidence in the last few days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jonrms Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 Since the world supply of oil will run out some day (some predict within the next 60 years stocks will start running out) don't you think that driving around in a car is a waste of the valuable resource by merely burning it for no good reason? Crude oil is the basis for so many plastic materials that have much more of a useful use than burning and given that CO2 emissions (and other pollutants) from cars are a large proportion of the overall carbon emitted then wouldn't it be much more sense just to ban private transport? Our dependence on fossil fuels (coal, gas, oil) isn't sustainable as these are finite resources which will absolutely without doubt run out some day so why don't we conserve them just now while we can by banning non useful means of using them? Would be interesting to see peoples opinions on this. A Big no for me... the reason why is quite simple. Yes cars use oil.. but no where near as much as factorys etc... I worked for a elect company..... for a very short time.. and when I found out in depth how much oil is being used/ and gas. etc.. I was shocked.. cars are the least of our problems.... Also with alot of chemicals etc these days. New natural oils are being produced that are less harmfull for the enviorment, cleaner burning etc... So NO for my vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quist Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 Its the goverment saying oil is running out, not the oil industry. Its just another excuse to hike taxes up. Like they keep harping on about 4x4's fuel consumption as if people carriers were using any less. They've discovered that if they make you feel guilty of some environmental selfishness, they can tax you twice as hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodmedod.one Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 I'm 100% with Martin on this. If it wasn't cost prohibitive in our taxed-to-death country, I would definitely be running a V8 pick-up. I live in a very rural area. I do a 40 mile round trip to work each day, leaving home at 0530 in the morning. the village I live in has one bus a week that stops 2 miles short of where I work. Public transport will never be a realistic option. The roads are so poorly maintained around here that you need a 4x4 just to get around in the winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobt Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 You forgot the DBSFS button how can I get about the rural bits of Yorkshire each day without a car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 If the World wide resource of crude oil is so near to exhaustion, why is the research into alternatives so slow and unproductive ? Do World Governments accept that the whole place grinds to a halt at some time in the near future, I don't think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 I voted no as well, I agree there should have been a DBSFS option. I could go to work by public transport, I could catch a bus to Colchester (30mins) then a train to Liverpool St (55 mins) then I walk to fenchurch st (15 mins) and then a train to Chavland (Basildon 40 mins) Then another bus (20mins) and then a 15min walk from the nearest bus stop to work. So in total about 3 hours each way so with my 9 hours at work that makes a 15hour day. And all those services apart from walking have used a hell of a lot more oil than my Discovery and it only takes me about 50mins to drive. So there you have it, DBSFS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 I voted NO, as I am not really a great fan of the transport policies favoured by the Communists, nor could this Government realistically develop a public transport as refined and user-friendly as that in say Switzerland. Anyway, I cycle everywhere in London, no matter the weather and only use a car infrequently. But in no way will I be denied my right to drive a private vehicle by some soap-dodging, sandal-wearing, Guardian-reading ecomentalist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il cacciatore Posted November 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 I would totally have my house tricked up to the max with photovoltaics, wind generators and heavily insulated. Having a "green" mode of transport is a big problem because none exist as efficient or convenient as the motorcar. Bicycles yes though not handy to go long distances or carry stuff. Would enjoy putting a deer on the back of a push bike. Or getting on a bus with a deer slung over the shoulder... It just wouldn't happen. Public transport is both unreliable and expensive. Though solar panels decrease in efficiency with age starting at about 25% in ideal conditions which is not that good - lasting about 20 years. Wind generator is no use for someone that stays in a town and they too only last about 20 years before needing replaced and need regular servicing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 I'd take more of an interest in this sort of thing if americans didn't pay about £1.20 PER GALLON for their petrol. What's the point in even trying to help the planet when this is going on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 I'd take more of an interest in this sort of thing if americans didn't pay about £1.20 PER GALLON for their petrol. What's the point in even trying to help the planet when this is going on i think its more like $286 a gallon now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGalway Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 This poll looks like it's going right down to the wire folks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crowstopper Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 I totally agree and so i voted No everyone should have the right to use private transport. However i do have a bit of an issue with people who drive 4x4's and live in the middle of no where and so think they need a 4x4 to ferry themselves around. Hell i live in the middle of nowhere in suffolk, our road gets flooded regularly, it ices up as the council never put anything on it in the winter and i manage to get through what ever the conditions in a ford escort estate diesel sorry but people who think they need a 4x4 who live in the middle of nowhere are mad, the roads are not that bloody bad its just pointless and annoying. As for fuels of the future hydrogen is the answer however its going to be years before it gets here. I would also love to see the government try and fund a bus to come and pick me up everyday to go 2 work and pick up the 2 other people about a mile down the road lol like thats ever going to happen. Crow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 I totally agree and so i voted No everyone should have the right to use private transport. However i do have a bit of an issue with people who drive 4x4's and live in the middle of no where and so think they need a 4x4 to ferry themselves around. Hell i live in the middle of nowhere in suffolk, our road gets flooded regularly, it ices up as the council never put anything on it in the winter and i manage to get through what ever the conditions in a ford escort estate diesel sorry but people who think they need a 4x4 who live in the middle of nowhere are mad, the roads are not that bloody bad its just pointless and annoying. As for fuels of the future hydrogen is the answer however its going to be years before it gets here. I would also love to see the government try and fund a bus to come and pick me up everyday to go 2 work and pick up the 2 other people about a mile down the road lol like thats ever going to happen. Crow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il cacciatore Posted November 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 What about people parked with their engines running (buses in a bus station always sit at the stance with the engine running away) or nipping 500 yrds down the road to the shop and take the car? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the last engineer Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 What about people parked with their engines running (buses in a bus station always sit at the stance with the engine running away) or nipping 500 yrds down the road to the shop and take the car? me , im one of them as well, if its freezing my nuts off weather here like most of the year guess what i point the remote and fire the truck up from the cozy house and drink coffee till she's warm wasting fuel yes, do i care no, did i buy it yes, sodoff then, i bought my vehicle to use not look at on the drive. Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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