recommend me a safety flag for s/a please.

[lewis2012]

Hi all looking for a safety flag for my soon to be collected beretta urika 2. Ive seen the napier flag on amazon but are there any better alternatives?

Thanks all

[subsonicnat]

Get The PLASTIC ONE, Cheaper than the Tape Flag: And is more Visible to other shooters: Orange or Red, Your choice:

[Mike737]

I use a Saf-t-plug, flexible hard(ish) plastic, shows there's nothing in the chamber, and holds the slide open.

[neil smith]

Tapco make the best safety flag as it grips in the chamber & stays in even with the bolt locked open.

 

They are also brilliant for use in pump actions.

 

They are available from Midway in boxes of six or individually from four4islands.

 

You may also find them on that well known auction site.

 

http://www.midwayuk.com/epages/Midway_UK.mobile/?ObjectPath=/Shops/Midway_UK/Products/534124&Locale=en_GB

 

N

Edited August 6, 2013 by neil smith

[mr smith]

As above got a Tapco one from the 4islands forum,cheap enough that even i bought one.

[activeviii]

just use an empty cartridge and trap it in sideways.

[Danoi99]

just use an empty cartridge and trap it in sideways.

What a really smart, cost effective solution to the problem...........well done sir !!!!

Edited August 6, 2013 by Danoi99

[activeviii]

Strewth mate............why not just stuff a clipper lighter in there ?

 

now your being stupid,

[Danoi99]

 

now your being stupid,

Betty Swollocks !!!!!!

[neil smith]

just use an empty cartridge and trap it in sideways.

Doing that would likely get you disqualified at most PSG matches.

[sitsinhedges]

Just put it in a gun slip between stands

[walshie]

+1 for saf-t-plug. Really visible and less of a faff to put in than a flag.

[neil smith]

+1 for saf-t-plug. Really visible and less of a faff to put in than a flag.

+1 for saf-t-plug. Really visible and less of a faff to put in than a flag.

While there is nothing really wrong with the Saf-T-plug it can be fitted with a live cartridge still in the barrel.

 

This issue means that at most PSG shoots you will need a flag that sticks down into the chamber by design.

 

The Tapco model does this & because its thin at the tip it inserts faster than any other device of this type.

[subsonicnat]

While there is nothing really wrong with the Saf-T-plug it can be fitted with a live cartridge still in the barrel.

 

This issue means that at most PSG shoots you will need a flag that sticks down into the chamber by design.

 

The Tapco model does this & because its thin at the tip it inserts faster than any other device of this type.

 

 

 

While there is nothing really wrong with the Saf-T-plug it can be fitted with a live cartridge still in the barrel.

 

This issue means that at most PSG shoots you will need a flag that sticks down into the chamber by design.

 

The Tapco model does this & because its thin at the tip it inserts faster than any other device of this type.

Thats Funny:::::

When My Auto is Cocked the cartridge is ejected???.. So leaving the chamber Empty..

it may be in the TUBE but not in the chamber, So Clearing the weapon anyway, there should be NONE in the gun at all:

Besides you cannot fire an auto with the safe t bar in place, its impossible..

Edited August 7, 2013 by subsonicnat

[Breastman]

 

 

 

Thats Funny:::::

When My Auto is Cocked the cartridge is ejected???.. So leaving the chamber Empty..

it may be in the TUBE but not in the chamber, So Clearing the weapon anyway, there should be NONE in the gun at all:

Besides you cannot fire an auto with the safe t bar in place, its impossible..

 

Scenario;

 

You're in a field shooting pigeons, you've just shot your gun empty and the bolt has locked open. You reload the chamber just as 'xyz' distracts you. You lose track of what you've done with the gun because of the distraction/you're tired from the days shoot etc etc. You decide its time to pack up so you put your Safe T Bar in the gun and go home. You get home and you 'know' the gun is safe because you've got your Safe T Plug in it. You take it out, close the bolt and pull the trigger to take the tension off the hammer.... Best case scenario you've got a hole in your house. Far fetched, yes, but many a person has been killed with "an unloaded gun".

 

Chamber flags that actually fit inside the chamber are the best and are idiot proof. The Tapco one mentioned above is the best one i've seen.

Edited August 8, 2013 by Breastman

[Hopper Bopper]

I use the Napier Flag.

It fits inside the chamber and holds the bolt back with a lovely bright flag showing.

I fit the flag even in the gun slip.

 

HB

[activeviii]

 

Scenario;

 

You're in a field shooting pigeons, you've just shot your gun empty and the bolt has locked open. You reload the chamber just as 'xyz' distracts you. You lose track of what you've done with the gun because of the distraction/you're tired from the days shoot etc etc. You decide its time to pack up so you put your Safe T Bar in the gun and go home. You get home and you 'know' the gun is safe because you've got your Safe T Plug in it. You take it out, close the bolt and pull the trigger to take the tension off the hammer.... Best case scenario you've got a hole in your house. Far fetched, yes, but many a person has been killed with "an unloaded gun".

 

Chamber flags that actually fit inside the chamber are the best and are idiot proof. The Tapco one mentioned above is the best one i've seen.

talking out your bum.

 

if your tired you shouldn't be shooting.

you should always check for empty before slipping any gun.

why take the pressure of the firing pin, does the manufacturer of any auto recommend it.

more accidents are caused but loaded guns because of laziness to unload when climbing over or around obstacles.

 

 

all these flags are brought about by none auto owners that are **** on the clay ground and have nothing better to do than moan. Bizzy bodies than need to wind there neck in.

 

 

 

 

 

 

popcorn?

[Breastman]

Wow you must be some kind of ultra-fit action hero if you can shoot all day and not get tired! Do you have a fan club i can subscribe to?

 

Yes you SHOULD visually and physically check your chamber (and magazine) are empty but the hypothetical scenario (you do understand what that means don't you?) was to illustrate how a flag that does not enter the chamber can be fallible.

 

N.B. Do YOU actually own a semi-auto? Take pressure off the firing pin??

[Wiggum]

 

Scenario;

 

You're in a field shooting pigeons, you've just shot your gun empty and the bolt has locked open. You reload the chamber just as 'xyz' distracts you. You lose track of what you've done with the gun because of the distraction/you're tired from the days shoot etc etc. You decide its time to pack up so you put your Safe T Bar in the gun and go home. You get home and you 'know' the gun is safe because you've got your Safe T Plug in it. You take it out, close the bolt and pull the trigger to take the tension off the hammer.... Best case scenario you've got a hole in your house. Far fetched, yes, but many a person has been killed with "an unloaded gun".

 

Chamber flags that actually fit inside the chamber are the best and are idiot proof. The Tapco one mentioned above is the best one i've seen.

Sorry mate I have to disagree

As said any cartridge in the chamber will be picked up by the extractor claw and ejected when the action is pulled back to insert the safe t plug. Also I always store my semi auto with the action locked open and my safe t plug fitted 100% safe in my eyes.

[neil smith]

Sorry mate I have to disagree

As said any cartridge in the chamber will be picked up by the extractor claw and ejected when the action is pulled back to insert the safe t plug. Also I always store my semi auto with the action locked open and my safe t plug fitted 100% safe in my eyes.

 

I dont wish to get into the finer points of what is a realistic situation or not because there are so many different possible circumstances that you simply cannot second guess what is or is not possible.

 

The safest course of action is to cover the obvious possibilities, a Saf-t-plug is better than no device at all, as are many other solutions to the flag design concept.

 

In the above situation its worth remembering that extractor claws are not infallible, in fact I have broken several over the years & when snapped off they leave the live shell or fired case in the barrel, if you dont visually check & simply bung the flag in with some designs you can still have a live round in the gun, with the types that go into the chamber you can't.

 

Also not safety related but storing your semi-auto with the bolt locked back will in time effect the bolt return spring thats housed inside the buttstock on many guns weakening it from being stored under compression for long periods.

 

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[activeviii]

Wow you must be some kind of ultra-fit action hero if you can shoot all day and not get tired! Do you have a fan club i can subscribe to?

 

Yes you SHOULD visually and physically check your chamber (and magazine) are empty but the hypothetical scenario (you do understand what that means don't you?) was to illustrate how a flag that does not enter the chamber can be fallible.

 

N.B. Do YOU actually own a semi-auto? Take pressure off the firing pin??

 

But a cow, that's been saved from a big pond, is under a helicopter and the rope brakes just as a guy below is about to take a shot at a pigeon, the cow lands on him and he shoots his mate. but the hypothetical scenario (you do understand what that means don't you?) was to illustrate how not to shoot your mate.

 

Yes i do have a semi. .

 

 

 

 

More popcorn?

[bullet boy]

just use an empty cartridge and trap it in sideways.

Great idea +1 on that!

[goodo123]

Buy a o/u or a sbs

[HDAV]

Buy a o/u or a sbs

Lol

 

So this flag thing stops you putting a cart in the mag? How is the PSG flag better than the saf-t plug??? I don't get it Does it work with browning speed load semis? What about ghost loaded ones?

[Gee.]

I use a Benelli branded 'safety plug', cost a few quid off fleabay.

 

Find it more visible than those flag dodahs.