goodo123 Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 I would say it's about time something was done, the amount of times I see old people doing 40 in a 60 then 40 in a 30... Their reaction times ARE slower. To prove a point tho try this next time your driving: drive as you should, mirror checks, blind spot checks, speed checks etc but also say the meanings of all the signs you go past and say all the hazards you see verbally. It's a good way to see howmmuch you normally pay attention and also your reactions on remembering etc. now imagine a 70year old doing the same, could they process this information? try doing the test in different scenarios, when you've just got up, when theirs traffic, on different roads etc, you will probably see more than you normally do, you will probably also see why some roads are "bad". It is interesting (may sound boring) but it does make you think. Dont forget to post your results, and be honest too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norfolk dumpling Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 We've got one in Sth Norfolk - drives (if that's what you call it) a large 4x4 seen it run into back of one car, always parks on double yellows (no disable. Sticker) full of dents and would guess she is close to 90. I know from my old job that so long as GP says she can drive and DVLA renews licence her current insurer has to offer renewal - that's the law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 (edited) It's not just the old folk ......LINKY Edited August 23, 2013 by malkiserow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeds chimp Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 like this when I was waiting to turn right and the old boy did not even slow down and hit me at about 60 mph...over 200 yards to see me as its a stright road.!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil3728 Posted August 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 yes not old people are bad drivers and most young people casuse accidents. when i just passed I seem, to have one almost every year. i have clamed my driving down now. it's just in my experiance I see a lot more dangerous driving by the older generation, than i do by the young, I do drive a reasonable amount of miles I cover about 25,000 miles per year. I have a eye test done at least once a year, my eyes are shot without contacts so I really need to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 It's not that they are bad drivers, it's their eyesight and this affects a number of the driving population. My mother has macular degeneration but was still driving until I told her I was going to report her to the DVLA. She threatened to disown me and wouldn't talk to me for a few days but finally admitted she knew she was not safe to drive. This has caused a lot of extra work for myself and the rest of the family but morally I could not let her continue. She did say that if she passed the DVLA test, what would I say then. my reply was that I would be over the moon if she passed but as we both knew , this would be highly unlikely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 (edited) One day we are all going to be old, lets see what you say when they are trying to take your licence away,At the moment you will say it wouldn't be a problem, wait until it happens to youYes there are some elderly people who shouldn't be driving, but they are there in all age groups,As for the disabled not being able to walk to their destination?That's why some of them have modified cars,Being disabled shouldn't preclude you from having a licenceI too rant at some drivers, but it will happen to us all one dayJust my opinion..... Edited August 23, 2013 by shaun4860 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 I note with interest the clamour to clamp down on the older generation. I too have seen some elderly drivers who are past their sell by date. However, they are in a very small minority compared to the middle lane hogging, tail gating, mobile phone using, boy racing cretins I see every day. If you are going down the road of re-testing, just how many people on here would pass their test first time - if they had to re-take it today? How many have an annual eye test? I have been obliged to take more rigorous driving tests than the standard one and have annual eye tests. A number of younger colleagues failed the eyesight test and a fair number fail the driving. One incident - and it is a regrettable one - and in goes the boot in true PW tradition. Insurance companies have it right - they do it for a living. They know who the at risk group are and it isn't the elderly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Scully - thanks. I was beginning to get a bit twitchy. I think all drivers should have an IQ test - with licences going only to the brightest. I suggest monthly eye tests - why leave them any longer? Anyone owning a mobile phone would be an automatic no-no for licence. Any female (possibly the odd - and I mean odd - male) who owns makeup and a comb, should be dealt with similarly. Reaction tests should be made compulsory - in line with Amir Khan - who told a court he had especially quick reactions, being a top boxer and only slightly thick. It didn't stop him mowing down an innocent pedestrian, who later died. All this ageist rubbish totally ignores the hazards of drink drivers, druggies and those who have no licence or insurance. On a serious note - leaving aside some of the garbage posted here - I think motorway driving should form part of the driver learning process. Drivers should me made to do a running commentary on their driving test, noting all the potential hazards that they spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salop Matt Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Am sure many will disagree but i feel driving tests should be retaken every 5-10 years to weed out the bad and dangerous drivers ! How ever this is just my opinion. The wifes gran is in her 80`s and drives around Bristol but its a scarry thought, she shouldnt be let loose in a mobility scooter let alone a car but she wont listen and we cant stop her ! ATB Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sian Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 One day we are all going to be old, lets see what you say when they are trying to take your licence away, At the moment you will say it wouldn't be a problem, wait until it happens to you Yes there are some elderly people who shouldn't be driving, but they are there in all age groups, As for the disabled not being able to walk to their destination? That's why some of them have modified cars, Being disabled shouldn't preclude you from having a licence I too rant at some drivers, but it will happen to us all one day Just my opinion..... You beat me to it. I would be interest to know at what age you are considered no longer capable? My dad and mum are 78 and 79 and both still drive daily and I have no problem them driving my daughter around. In fact I think both are far more active physically and mentally than a lot of people in their 60s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeds chimp Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 One day we are all going to be old, lets see what you say when they are trying to take your licence away, At the moment you will say it wouldn't be a problem, wait until it happens to you Yes there are some elderly people who shouldn't be driving, but they are there in all age groups, As for the disabled not being able to walk to their destination? That's why some of them have modified cars, Being disabled shouldn't preclude you from having a licence I too rant at some drivers, but it will happen to us all one day Just my opinion..... When I had my eye operations I was told I could drive 24 hours after,,,,, But I knew I was not safe even after that so I waited 2/3 weeks.... before I got back behind the wheel..., some won't do that and carry on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickyh Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 The truth of the matter is the INSURANCE companies should contact the DVLA once the reports come in. When a big incident like this occurs, and the wittnesses statements clearly show the persons driving standards to.be questionable, Then a report should be filed with the DVLA to persue! Sorry about your car. Couldnt agree more. It will only keep happening until they are removed from the road. We will all be old one day and not want to loose our freedom,but someone else will surely pay with thier life if nothing is done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 (edited) Forgive me - why the obsession with age? It borders on stupidity. Perhaps someone could quote some stats on deaths caused by older drivers. Then they could pass them on to the insurance companies, who are totally unaware of these and the perceived wisdom of the PW lynch mob. Edited August 23, 2013 by Gordon R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Forgive me - why the obsession with age? It borders on stupidity. Perhaps someone could quote some stats on deaths caused by older drivers. Then they could pass them on to the insurance companies, who are totally unaware of these and the perceived wisdom of the PW lynch mob. Funny isn't it that it's that insurers loaded the premiums of the under 25's but not those of the over 65's. As you say, wait till this sancemonius bunch reach 65 then you'll hear a different story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Charlie - are we talking age or IQ? :whistling: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Charlie - are we talking age or IQ? :whistling: That made me chuckle !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 (edited) I'll readily agree that 'some people should not be driving' but why just target the elderly? Edited August 23, 2013 by Scully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 I'll readily agree that 'some people should not be driving' but why just target the elderly? Discrimination Scully, that's what it is, discrimination pure and simple. They'll want to ban our Zimmer frames next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 When I had my eye operations I was told I could drive 24 hours after,,,,, But I knew I was not safe even after that so I waited 2/3 weeks.... before I got back behind the wheel..., some won't do that and carry on yes but that goes for everyone, not just the elderly or disabled Whilst I have every sympathy for Neil and his car, would he have been so vociferous if it had been a spotty yoof with no mobility problems that drove into it, and then others demanding every spotty yoof with no mobility problems retake their driving tests?...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 i think if it were a choice of hand my licence back or seriously risk running over someone due to my senility there'd be no contest. i wouldn't want to be the one with a death on my conscience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Paddy - I'd like to think we all would, but senility would rob you of the judgement. You wouldn't have a conscience. How many boy racers will be handing back their licences because they might cause a death? Senile drivers should clearly not be driving, but there are so many others categories of people not fit to drive, which posters either conveniently or deliberately ignore. I wonder why. Someone gets their car whacked by an elderly driver - let's start a simplistic campaign. No logic - none needed. Ignore boy racers or tail-gaters - there might be some on the Forum. PW magic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Paddy - I'd like to think we all would, but senility would rob you of the judgement. You wouldn't have a conscience. How many boy racers will be handing back their licences because they might cause a death? Senile drivers should clearly not be driving, but there are so many others categories of people not fit to drive, which posters either conveniently or deliberately ignore. I wonder why. Someone gets their car whacked by an elderly driver - let's start a simplistic campaign. No logic - none needed. Ignore boy racers or tail-gaters - there might be some on the Forum. PW magic. now now Gordon, the op was about a senior moment behind the wheel incident, i do share your sentiments about the other lot though, but that's side lining the thread a tad no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Paddy - I honestly don't have the answer. Re-testing and compulsory eyesight / reaction testing sounds sensible, but would take some selling and would be a logistical nightmare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Paddy - I honestly don't have the answer. Re-testing and compulsory eyesight / reaction testing sounds sensible, but would take some selling and would be a logistical nightmare. i have an idea that might cure some of the younger element, totally unworkable but funny nonetheless, an electric mat fitted to the seat, wired to a resistor on the throttle, more throttle then more zap to the testes, it's a win win situation, if it doesn't cure them then at least they can't breed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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