starlight32 Posted December 21, 2006 Report Share Posted December 21, 2006 This could be an interesting one. What choke sizing is the one for you? Mine are ; DECOYING- 1/4" ROOST SHOOTING-FULL GAME-FULL WILDFOWLING- 1/2" (STEEL AND BISMUTH) Any of you out there shoot OPEN when decoying??:good: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye Posted December 21, 2006 Report Share Posted December 21, 2006 1/4 choke for everything cannot be ***** to change them PS thats in my 2 auto's in my O/U in have 1/4 & 1/2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pin Posted December 21, 2006 Report Share Posted December 21, 2006 After some brief fiddling which got me nowhere but backwards its :- Skeet: Skeet/Skeet DTL: 1/2 & 3/4 Sporting: 1/4 & 1/2 Pigeon, depends, but normally 1/2 & 3/4 ( I don't like shooting them close in because I miss them ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PestController Posted December 21, 2006 Report Share Posted December 21, 2006 This could be an interesting one. What choke sizing is the one for you? Mine are ; DECOYING- 1/4" ROOST SHOOTING-FULL GAME-FULL WILDFOWLING- 1/2" (STEEL AND BISMUTH) Any of you out there shoot OPEN when decoying??:good: To broadly answer your question, I use chokes relevant to the range I'm shooting game at, in order to ensure a filled pattern and clean kill, obviously tightening as ranges increase. If you mean true cylinder by "OPEN" then yes, I use it at about 25yds to great effect. Well,thats to say pigeons don't like it... and welcome.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hitman Posted December 21, 2006 Report Share Posted December 21, 2006 For game and pigeons its 1/4 + 3/4 for me . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiercel Posted December 21, 2006 Report Share Posted December 21, 2006 A question. How can anyone say what the choking is on his or her gun? As I am given to understand the choking measurements, there is no given diameter for ¼, ½, ¾ or full chokes as it all depends on the diameter of the barrel in the first place. With such wide tolerances on barrel diameters, what would be a full choke on one gun may well be a ¾ on another. Please correct me if I am wrong. Tiercel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noddy without Bigears Posted December 21, 2006 Report Share Posted December 21, 2006 Personally, I have a big problem with choke i.e I can't be bothered to change them, but here goes: Fabarm Semi-Auto - skeet for everything, clays & live, I think the choke is probably seized in by now, Denton & Kennell sbs - tight & ******* tighter, no idea what they are, but hard work on skeet. Ugarcheta sbs - as above, My recollection is that ideally all game guns used to be choked Imp Cylinder and a quarter, only with the advant of O/U clay guns did multchokes become the norm. With the continued improvement in modern cartridge design, patterns are probably a lot tighter & more consistent than they were 20yrs ago, so why do we need more choke? or is it that we believe we'll hit more birds with more choke? psychological factors playing a part here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PestController Posted December 21, 2006 Report Share Posted December 21, 2006 A question.How can anyone say what the choking is on his or her gun? As I am given to understand the choking measurements, there is no given diameter for ¼, ½, ¾ or full chokes as it all depends on the diameter of the barrel in the first place. With such wide tolerances on barrel diameters, what would be a full choke on one gun may well be a ¾ on another. Please correct me if I am wrong. Tiercel A good link that gives detail about choke and barrel sizing... http://www.kwacs.org.uk/barrels&choke.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiercel Posted December 21, 2006 Report Share Posted December 21, 2006 A question. How can anyone say what the choking is on his or her gun? As I am given to understand the choking measurements, there is no given diameter for ¼, ½, ¾ or full chokes as it all depends on the diameter of the barrel in the first place. With such wide tolerances on barrel diameters, what would be a full choke on one gun may well be a ¾ on another. Please correct me if I am wrong. Tiercel A good link that gives detail about choke and barrel sizing... http://www.kwacs.org.uk/barrels&choke.htm True but much prefer this link Quote from the link. Today, inside barrel diameters are less consistent from manufacturer to manufacturer, ranging from about .722 inches to more than .745 inches. Take a .740 bore shotgun, for example. Insert a full choke and the muzzle diameter changes to .705 inches. Now imagine an improved modified choke (.025 constriction) in the traditional .729 bore. That would give you a muzzle diameter of .704 inches. And in a shotgun with a bore of .722, a modified choke (.020 constriction) would result in a muzzle diameter of .702 inches. All other variables being equal, in all three examples the downrange patterns would be nearly identical, despite the fact that three different chokes were employed. Tiercel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pin Posted December 21, 2006 Report Share Posted December 21, 2006 Fair point I have patterned my gun with my chokes to see what its doing at the ranges I shoot and with the carts I use, and am happy with that. I should have stated the gun I was on about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiercel Posted December 21, 2006 Report Share Posted December 21, 2006 Fair point I have patterned my gun with my chokes to see what its doing at the ranges I shoot and with the carts I use, and am happy with that. I should have stated the gun I was on about PIN, That is what you need to do with every gun as each one is different. That was my point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PestController Posted December 21, 2006 Report Share Posted December 21, 2006 A question. How can anyone say what the choking is on his or her gun? As I am given to understand the choking measurements, there is no given diameter for ¼, ½, ¾ or full chokes as it all depends on the diameter of the barrel in the first place. With such wide tolerances on barrel diameters, what would be a full choke on one gun may well be a ¾ on another. Please correct me if I am wrong. Tiercel A good link that gives detail about choke and barrel sizing... http://www.kwacs.org.uk/barrels&choke.htm True but much prefer this link Quote from the link. Today, inside barrel diameters are less consistent from manufacturer to manufacturer, ranging from about .722 inches to more than .745 inches. Take a .740 bore shotgun, for example. Insert a full choke and the muzzle diameter changes to .705 inches. Now imagine an improved modified choke (.025 constriction) in the traditional .729 bore. That would give you a muzzle diameter of .704 inches. And in a shotgun with a bore of .722, a modified choke (.020 constriction) would result in a muzzle diameter of .702 inches. All other variables being equal, in all three examples the downrange patterns would be nearly identical, despite the fact that three different chokes were employed. Tiercel That makes for interesting comparisons Tiercel, you'd have to say that if standards vary that much between manufacturers, it's down to the old addage, of what works best for the individual, using basic recommendation as a start point and than adjusting ckokes to suit your own gun? You'd have thought the engineering standards surrounding barrel tube and choke dimensions to fall into a fairly tight spectrum, just shows, nowt's sacred anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pin Posted December 21, 2006 Report Share Posted December 21, 2006 I don't think the exit diameter (internal) of a barrel has ever been subject to standard sizes. Chamber dimensions yes, but the internal diameter of a barrel? Up to the maker of the gun I would say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted December 22, 2006 Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 For decoying imp cylinder and a quarter. For game and roost shooting quarter and a half, if I can be bothered to change. Gun is a Browning 525. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradders Posted December 22, 2006 Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 In my Beretta 30" I have 1/4 in both top and bottom Clays 28gms 8's Game 32gms 6's Pigeon 32gms 6's In the Benelli SA 24" I have 1/2 Shells, same as the Beretta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invector Posted December 22, 2006 Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 1/4 and 3/4 for everything. I will never be a choke tart!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffolk shooter Posted December 22, 2006 Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 Clay shooting - Depends how I feel as to which gun I use, but I have used all of them to good effect and then again all of them to bad effect. Decoying out to 30yds, Skeet and Skeet with my Miroku 26" barrelled O/U Skeet Gun Game shooting on my syndicate shoot with my Sabbatti Gardone O/UCylinder and Improved Cylinder Wildfowling with my Browning Gold Hunter S/A As open as possible due to using steel shot and 3.5" Magnum Cartridges SS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocket Posted December 23, 2006 Report Share Posted December 23, 2006 Its 1/4 + 1/2 for me, game and pigeon. This link really helps with sorting shot pattern. http://www.rfgc.org/reload/pattern_density_calc.htm Cheers Crocket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza Posted December 23, 2006 Report Share Posted December 23, 2006 1/4 and 1/2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caplock Posted December 23, 2006 Report Share Posted December 23, 2006 Full and fuller, but then I am an exceptionally good shot and liar to boot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigden Posted December 23, 2006 Report Share Posted December 23, 2006 1/4 ih my Franchi semi auto, if crows are about change to 1/2 to thwack the black ******** 1/4 and 1/2 in my Browning o/u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickymiroku Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 1/4 and 1/2. cant be wrong, to many people use this combination to good efect, and thats good enough for me. i,v tried other combinations and always gone back to the trusted 1/4 and 1/2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stupidsalmon Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 bought my beretta m/c with 1/2 and 1/2 in a year back and havent bothered changing since, works fine on pheasant, pigeon, rabbit, duck etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 A 1/2 choke barrel is a barrel that throws a 1/2 choke pattern. A full choke barrel is a barrel that throws a full choke pattern. A 1/4 barrel is.................... Nothing to do with any measurements as far as I have ever understood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catamong Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 RJ, Good to see you back on the forum after a long layoff, there aren't many oldtimers like us left who are able to provide such pearls of wisdom as your post above..!! Like me, you clearly believe in quality, not quantity. P.S. - Did you get time off for good behaviour..?? Cat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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