Flashman Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24605954 This is something out of a horror film: child kidnapping and then using the kid like a performing animal to beg. Fagin springs to mind here. "Mr Salis and Ms Dimopoulou, who are also implicated in a string of robberies, have denied any criminal wrongdoing, claiming that the girl was given up by her biological mother." I was going to make a point about Labour and open door immigration, but it's too sick for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegasus bridge Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 disgraceful scum, lets hope the extent of what they've done is just using her to beg. I wonder how long it will be in 2014 before we get the delightful spectacle of roma camps over here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 when it concerns children, its stomach wrenching, if she has been abducted, what is on the little mites mind, is she yearning for her family? it she to young, and has forgotten them, the mind boggles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRNDL Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 Very disturbing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psyxologos Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 Roma gypsies have been doing this for ages. I remember when I was growing up this is the kind of threat some mothers made to their unrully children: 'If you stray away from me the gypsies will take you...' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 Roma gypsies have been doing this for ages. I remember when I was growing up this is the kind of threat some mothers made to their unrully children: 'If you stray away from me the gypsies will take you...' i also was told that as a child. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 I personally think she has not been kidnapped. The gypsy kidnapping thing psyxologos was talking about is really more of an urban myth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 I personally think she has not been kidnapped. The gypsy kidnapping thing psyxologos was talking about is really more of an urban myth. What do you think has happened in this case aris? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 I personally think she has not been kidnapped. The gypsy kidnapping thing psyxologos was talking about is really more of an urban myth. must have been the immaculate conception then, or was she found under the gooseberry bush that grows in your utopia. KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 (edited) What do you think has happened in this case aris?I supect it is an abandoned child or street child from eastern Europe they 'adopted' (albeit illegally without papers) with the intention of getting state benefit. I could be wrong - but that is what my intuition tells me. As you might surmise from my name, I'm of Greek descent. The Roma in Greece, although there for many generations, with Greek names even, and full Greek citizens have always been marginalised. Edited October 21, 2013 by aris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 I supect it is an abandoned child or street child from eastern Europe they 'adopted' (albeit illegally without papers) with the intention of getting state benefit. I could be wrong - but that is what my intuition tells me. As you might surmise from my name, I'm of Greek descent. The Roma in Greece, although there for many generations, with Greek names even, and full Greek citizens have always been marginalised. I suppose ben needam was abandoned in the same camp then. KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 Those Roma don't live in the same world as the rest of us. 80% of them are illiterate - paperwork of any kind is a mere hindrance. Their family and social structures are completely diffrent to ours. I hope I'm wrong and some parent of a missing child is reunited. Sadly this will stigmatise them even further. If the kid was Roma, but found that the parents were not biological ones, they would not have batted an eyelid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 Those Roma don't live in the same world as the rest of us. 80% of them are illiterate - paperwork of any kind is a mere hindrance. Their family and social structures are completely diffrent to ours. I hope I'm wrong and some parent of a missing child is reunited. Sadly this will stigmatise them even further. If the kid was Roma, but found that the parents were not biological ones, they would not have batted an eyelid. I'm not buying any of this. If you "find" an abandoned child you don't take that child and rear it into forced labour unless there is something seriously wrong with you. I don't care how marginalised, illiterate or disadvantaged these people are, this case just highlights the utter madness of allowing them unchecked into this country next year. We have enough of an amoral, illiterate, criminal, interbred underclass of our own. We don't need to import more of them by the ship-load. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philscreens Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 I suppose ben needam was abandoned in the same camp then. KW +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 Never said it was right - just pointing out how it is. As I said, they live in a different world. Romanians have been able to come to the UK for some time now. Only thing they could not do was work without a permit, and claim state benefits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 Never said it was right - just pointing out how it is. As I said, they live in a different world. Romanians have been able to come to the UK for some time now. Only thing they could not do was work without a permit, and claim state benefit And I hope they stay in that world. They won't be getting a welcome from me. No nationality has ever been banned. Anyone has always been able to come to Britain - subject to immigration controls. What has changed is that those controls have been ruled unlawful by the EU Commission and our borders dismantled. Working without a permit and qualifying for state benefits used to be a defining mark of citizenship, and still is in every sovereign country beyond Europe. The extension of these rights to any itinerant alien who turns up is a craven abdication of sovereignty and marks the end of us as a nation state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psyxologos Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 This woman had 6 children in the space of 10 months, apparently.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 And I hope they stay in that world. They won't be getting a welcome from me. No nationality has ever been banned. Anyone has always been able to come to Britain - subject to immigration controls. What has changed is that those controls have been ruled unlawful by the EU Commission and our borders dismantled. Working without a permit and qualifying for state benefits used to be a defining mark of citizenship, and still is in every sovereign country beyond Europe. The extension of these rights to any itinerant alien who turns up is a craven abdication of sovereignty and marks the end of us as a nation state. Sorry, off topic a bit but there was a very good program on R4 this morning (Start the Week, I think) unbiased and a non politically motivated view on imigration in relation to economics. Well worth a listen. Getting back to the story, it is very shocking and I really hope the kid's parents are found before she has a life of institutions and further instability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 and here's me thinking it was just copper and lead that gypsies stole truly saddened but not surprised by this news, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karpman Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 Never said it was right - just pointing out how it is. As I said, they live in a different world. Romanians have been able to come to the UK for some time now. Only thing they could not do was work without a permit, and claim state benefits. Is there anyone you won't defend:0 I think kidnapping was probably the order of the day. Even if she was gifted to em they could of looked after her instead they decided to treat he like a animal. Disgusting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 Hanging might be too extreme, but I don't have the words to describe just how low these people are. Scum is the kindest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 (edited) ; Sorry, off topic a bit but there was a very good program on R4 this morning (Start the Week, I think) unbiased and a non politically motivated view on imigration in relation to economics. Well worth a listen. Getting back to the story, it is very shocking and I really hope the kid's parents are found before she has a life of institutions and further instability. ha ha R4 not biased ooh chortle chortle,,its the worst of the lot bunch of rabid lefties. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/10390607/Can-we-still-trust-the-BBC.html Edited October 21, 2013 by kdubya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 Is there anyone you won't defend:0 I think kidnapping was probably the order of the day. Even if she was gifted to em they could of looked after her instead they decided to treat he like a animal. Disgusting Exactly where was I defending anything? These people live that way - illiterate, poor. I w merely sating thefavts. Many governments have tried to alter thir ways, but it does no good. I suppose you would consider mass sterilisation as a solution? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodo123 Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 Just wait until we open the gates, I have a huge suspicion aswell that the government have put this automatic pension thing into place with a view to stopping the state pension. Probably due to having to support these when they come across. Just search on YouTube for documentarys on this group of people, can't find anything positive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 If the little girl was stolen then I would not have thought that it would be to hard to find her real parents as she would have been reported to the police as missing and all that they have to do is look at there DNA having said that people in pore countries or even drug users do give children away if they cannot afford to look after them so I would wait to see before condemning people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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