scorpius Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 (edited) I am planning on buying a new moderator for my CZ 17.HMR, is it worth paying for the most expensive because the prices vary a lot, and their is no way I can try them prior to purchase, and is their any make that gives the best noise reduction. Edited November 20, 2013 by scorpius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenhunter Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 I'm using a scirocco on mine. Works for me and although I'veheard they wear out quicker than some of the expensive ones, at £35 a throw, easy to replace! GH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beanieboy Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 Sak will do the job for £35-£40 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 Sak will do the job for £35-£40 As above. You're still going to get some crack when the gun fires Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingy Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 I've got 2 x CZ 452's in .17HMR both have Sak moderators fitted, not expensive and do ok. Just remember they won't kill the noise like a moderator on a .22 rim fire using sub sonic ammunition. The .17 HMR still goes with quite a crack! Wingy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caeser Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 I've had a few moderators on the 17 HMR's that I've owned, and to me there were 2 which stood out above the rest. DM80 and Wildcat. Both were that bit better than the rest for me. I know that they are not the cheapest, but they do have decent secondhand values so it sort of balances out. It's just the initial outlay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snipers eye Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 as above,i have a wildcat whisper.used sak,parkerhale,and a few other cheap mods.the whisper is best by far,you get what you pay for,sak is great on a .22. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Maughan Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 (edited) There is no 'best by far' moderator for the .17HMR, we are talking a couple of decibels at the most difference which doesnt make sense buying the expensive ones. I compared a SAK at £35 with an LEI at £135, no audible difference, either at the rifle or 100yds away. I would gladly pay £200+ for a moderator that made this caliber quieter but its just not going to happen, buy a SAK, it works and its easy to clean, then put the difference towards something else. Edited November 20, 2013 by Alan Maughan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 SAK on my Rimfires-it's good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSA-airgunner Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 Sm11 sirocco for me the proofed version built for the 17 hmr... http://www.shootingtimes.co.uk/guns/369774/Ten_of_the_best_17HMR_moderators.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffo223 Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 Either a wildcat whisper or the new onelesscharlie Full stainless which I now use, it's built to last and just a tad quieter than my wildcat. Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicykillgaz Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 Sako on my .22 rimfire, out of all the mods I've tried/heard this is the best. Slightly longer and thinner than the sak but better IMO. Might be worth a try on the .17 I think dekers had one on his .22wmr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snipers eye Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 There is no 'best by far' moderator for the .17HMR, we are talking a couple of decibels at the most difference which doesnt make sense buying the expensive ones. I compared a SAK at £35 with an LEI at £135, no audible difference, either at the rifle or 100yds away. I would gladly pay £200+ for a moderator that made this caliber quieter but its just not going to happen, buy a SAK, it works and its easy to clean, then put the difference towards something else. when i said best by far i mean build quality,stainless steel innards,looks way better on my 16" heavy barrel,and to my ears a bit less of a crack than the sak i had on before,thats my opinion,but opinions are like ********,everyones got one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 (edited) Sako Sirocco SM1116 SAK The Sako is the best of the 3 on the WMR/HMR but the SAK is fine, the difference between all of them isn't worth the debate. Spend what you like but may I suggest you take a read of this, and note the table near the bottom, before you invest your hard earned................ http://www.shootinguk.co.uk/gunreviews/381445/17HMR_calibre_sound_moderators_review_.html Edit The £125 Whisper gets a pounding on sound reduction, price, weight, size and overall rating, it falls below the circa £35 SAK on all counts! Edited November 22, 2013 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 i have a sak on my hmr and sirocco for the lr and swap every now and then don't seem to be any difference did try my £300 cf mod on the hmr to see what difference it made and it was hardly noticeable colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 Sm11 sirocco for me the proofed version built for the 17 hmr... http://www.shootingtimes.co.uk/guns/369774/Ten_of_the_best_17HMR_moderators.html The proof version makes no difference whatsoever, it simply has a proof mark. You need the SM1116 version! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon1979 Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 i have a whisper on my hmr, seems to do a good job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snipers eye Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 well lads each to there own,i have tried a good few mods,the whisper will be staying on my hmr for reasons ive said,despite what the shooting mags say,i have found the mod for me,won't wear out,over barrel,easy clean,steel baffles,.17 specific,and to my ears a tad quieter than any other mod ive used,also all guns are different,what sounds good on one,may not on another Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadioles Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 As far as noise reduction is concerned I really don't think you will notice much difference between any of them and it certainly is not in proportion to price. What you are paying for is looks, materials, advertising, quality of construction, design. Choose something that is easy to strip and clean. The HMR does rather chew up the baffles of a SAK especially with a shorter barrel. On the other hand it will take hundreds of rounds to cause the damage and you can throw it away and fit a new one several times over for the price of a "better" moderator. The SAK was really designed for .22LR but does a good job. I like the DM80 which is .17 specific and of the "over barrel" type which helps keep things short. Don't get too stressed about the choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 As far as noise reduction is concerned I really don't think you will notice much difference between any of them and it certainly is not in proportion to price. What you are paying for is looks, materials, advertising, quality of construction, design. Choose something that is easy to strip and clean. The HMR does rather chew up the baffles of a SAK especially with a shorter barrel. On the other hand it will take hundreds of rounds to cause the damage and you can throw it away and fit a new one several times over for the price of a "better" moderator. The SAK was really designed for .22LR but does a good job. I like the DM80 which is .17 specific and of the "over barrel" type which helps keep things short. Don't get too stressed about the choice. In very simple terms the SAK has a Lifetime guarantee (your lifetime), whatever you do with it, Jackson Rifles will replace it for 60% of the price of a new one! So don't throw it away, get a replacement! Jackson Rifles used to suggest a life of 10,000 round on a WMR/HMR, but it doesn't matter, if it wears out just send off for a replacement! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHIPPERS Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 have a sak on my sako quad 17 hmr works a treat,and they dont break the bank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vampire Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 Scirocco on the .22,sak on the .17hmr and pes on the .223. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbust Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 LEI on my 455 HMR is great and the bonus is that the Mod is near on exact the same diameter as the barrel. So no shine back of the mod when lamping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 LEI on my 455 HMR is great and the bonus is that the Mod is near on exact the same diameter as the barrel. So no shine back of the mod when lamping. i was thinking of getting a thinner mod for mine, what's the 0/D of your barrel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbust Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 Paddy, I am sorry mate but I have been sitting on the computer now for a couple of hours having had a great day at the Norfolk Flush and of course probably now onto my 5th or 6th large low flyer so I am not going to go up and get the rifle out and measure it as I would probably break my neck. Suffices to say that it is the 455 varmint that I have. I hope that some one might be able to give you the info, if not I will check it out for you tomorrow. I will say that the LEI is great and fits the barrel near on perfect but is not any better performance wise than the SAK, however I am sure the LEI will last a very long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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