Steve_in_Devon Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 I have just bought these 2 air rifles to refurbish. The one is in really bad condition, will need a new stock, so might have a go at making on myself. There no markings that can be seen, but these might be under all the tape. It has also had a scope glued onto it. It seems to be a nice little air rifle. The other one seem to be a nice gun, just needs cleaning up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googleplex Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 Looks like a time consuming project, But worthit in the end. It amazes me what people will do to an airgun,the mind boggles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_in_Devon Posted January 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 Looking forward to it, dont mind if it takes awhile, just wish I didnt have to be sitting at work at th moment. Apprently they had been left in a guys shed. The one with the tape wouldn't cock and had to be put into a vice, still had a pellet in the barrell, but when we pulled the trigger it didnt come out, so we thought it might need a new spring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjpainter Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 Looks like a time consuming project, But worth it in the end. It amazes me what people will do to an airgun,the mind boggles. I know what you mean! why? why do it?? hope you get them up to scratch steve. keep us posted on the work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saddler Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 The non-taped one looks like a very early Meteor The taped one looks to be the same size, so may also be a Meteor. Parts are easy to come by, so hopefully you'll be able to get them both up & running Good luck with the project Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_in_Devon Posted January 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 Will let you know who it goes, and will take some better photos. These were just taken before walking back into work. The non-taped one looks like a very early Meteor The taped one looks to be the same size, so may also be a Meteor. Parts are easy to come by, so hopefully you'll be able to get them both up & running Good luck with the project The taped up one is smaller than the other one, will look for some markings once all the tape has been taken off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salop Matt Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 So whats the process with this then, Strip it, de-grease it, replace broken parts, re- blue, re-lube, reassemble and chrono ? Should keep you busy for a while. ATB Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_in_Devon Posted January 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 So whats the process with this then, Strip it, de-grease it, replace broken parts, re- blue, re-lube, reassemble and chrono ? Should keep you busy for a while. ATB Matt Not sure at the moment, I have never refurbished one before. So my first step will be to strip them, see what they look like and if anything needs replacing. No rush thought, so hoping will be able to do a decent job on them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subaru_sti5 Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 +1 on the untaped one being an early meteor I have one in slightly better condition that use to belong to my old man but I confiscated it to attempt a refurb on it 30+years of neglect does no good to a leather seal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemini52 Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 I know a guy who has a webley mk 3 sitting in his garage rusting away,he wont part with it as he had it from when he was a kid,it beggers belief as to why he wonts to keep it just in that condition when it could be restored and used,it takes all sorts i suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mongrel- Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 Did you pay much for them? Have fun with the refurbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moorvale55 Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 I had a .177 Relum given to me last year, the stock and cylinder are held by a plastic pull tie, it's rusty and in really rough condition. Already have .22lr, HMR, .243 and HW 80k in .22 but have never had a .177. Due to your post I am going to try and refurb the Relum, never tried it before and in no rush but will give it a go. Thanks for the incentive. (it might take years !!). ATB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackthorn Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 the un taped air rifle looks like a relum looks to have lines in the stock, could also be a **** photo and i got it totally rong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Good grief they are both in bad shape. ATB in your quest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_in_Devon Posted January 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Did you pay much for them? Have fun with the refurbs. I only paid £15 for them both. Didn't get a chance last night to do anything with them, so hoping to have a better look at them tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_in_Devon Posted January 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Just went and bought a big tin of WD40, on my way home will be getting some steel wool. Then it will be time to tidy the shed up before taking them apart. Have been having a look how to make a spring compressor online, so I guess I will be needing to make on of those aswell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srspower Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 (edited) Just went and bought a big tin of WD40, on my way home will be getting some steel wool. Then it will be time to tidy the shed up before taking them apart. Have been having a look how to make a spring compressor online, so I guess I will be needing to make on of those aswell. I think you're going to need something a lot more severe than just WD40 and some steel wool. They look heavily pitted, you can get this stuff the navy use to remove rust from boats that is VERY effective called 'naval jelly'. But it will remove all the bluing as well as the rust. But if you do that and hot blue it you should get brilliant results. Edited January 25, 2014 by srspower Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett1985 Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 both are meteors.... easy to strip, and you can get away without using a spring compressor. PM me if you need any info on stripping and tuning! ive done LOTS of these! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbaz Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 Brett The one with tape on definitely isn't a Meteor.. If you look at the rounded shape of the breech yoke, it's definitely Hungarian, BSA never shaped them round like this ever, Also, the trigger guard is nothing like any Meteor guard.. The stock on the Relum doesn't look like the Relum Telly stock as they had several lines cut in close together.. the same as this one, there was a Relum Sport (mod 822) which is quite rare here in the UK (I've never seen one!!), It could be the Sport.. The 'rounded' Relum breech yoke.. The whole rifle.. The other is a mk1 Meteor for sure (three lines cut in to the stock), if the cylinder end cover is steel then it's from the first year of production as they changed to plastic after a year ('59/'60) If the Meteor is .22cal then the prefix will be T and was produced from 1959 to 1962, same with the .177 but the serial prefix will be N.. Here was my old Meteor mk1 minus any type of sights :( Good luch with the resto, as said a clump of wire wool soaked in oil will bring the metalwork up much better but if there's no blueing at all then coarse wire wool will be OK, it'll still look better than just rust!! Here's an old mk2 Airsporter that was dead rusty, I used the wool and oil, it looked ten times better after just five mins!! John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 Good luck, sight of the finished product would be interesting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_in_Devon Posted January 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Thanks all, I haven't started yet as I tasked myself with sorting the shed out first before I start. Thats completed over the weekend, so now I can start on them. Does anyone have any experience with rebluing? One post mentioned no need for a spring compressore, that was on my list to make to take these apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbaz Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Hi Steve Home reblueing using propriety chemicals isn't very good i'm afraid but the best i've come across is the new Ballistol product Ballistol Klever Blue It says 'Brunierung' which is apparentlt German for blueing!! Here are three actions that I reblued using the above, they looked OK at first but faded some when the polish was brought up with 0000 grade wire wool The finish as with most of these preperations is quite thin and does tend to wear quickly.. I recall reading a piece somewhere about slow fume blueing that entails polishing an action and thoroughly degreasing then hanging on a home made frame over some masonary cleaning acid and then after 24 hours, this turns the steel bright red (Oxydised) then boiling it in homemaide tanks, this is repeated about eight or ten times until it rusts no more.. This method is best done in warm weather for more effectiveness.. This method is the way that blueing was done years ago before the hot chemical dipping was introduced.. Good luck mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbaz Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Here's a link to Fume blueing (also known as rust blueing) on Wiki.. Fume Blueing If you Google Fume Blueing, there are lots of hints and tutorials on how to get the best results John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_in_Devon Posted January 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Here's a link to Fume blueing (also known as rust blueing) on Wiki.. Fume Blueing If you Google Fume Blueing, there are lots of hints and tutorials on how to get the best results cheers will have a look at this, might be an option. first job is the take them apart. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett1985 Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 you wont need a spring compressor for the meteor, just a notched broom handle that will fit around the retaining pin. needs to be about 6 inches long. a quick google should show up some good info for you mate. brett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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