cliff 87 Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Hi again, I have a air arms s410 and it as been sprayed a couple of times know and I would like to restore it. The barrel is all chipped and looks a right mess what would be the best method to remove the paint with out marking the barrel. I would like to do the stock as well as that's been sprayed black. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subsonicnat Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 (edited) The Only Way, Hard work (File if Needed) and wet and dry. Sorry. Edited February 23, 2014 by subsonicnat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Nitromors not work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliff 87 Posted February 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 just sand paper then was not sore if it would of been ok thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 just sand paper then was not sore if it would of been ok thanks Sanding the barrel and not causing any damage!?!?!?! 1200 grit will damage the barrel, and you will take days to sand paint off with 1200 anyway! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 I would go with a paint remover, it doesnt need to be too aggresive. i would not use sand paper wet and dry whatever grit on a barrel unless you intend to have it re-blued. You could try a heat gun on the barrel but again not tooooo aggresive, Rushing may only ruin it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
station Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Depends how much paint is on it - you say that it is chipped? Does it feel like a couple of coats of spray paint or a good ole coat brushed on? Are you planning to refurb the barrel with paint or have it blued? Bit more info needed really. My job is prep and paint on all sorts of substrates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliff 87 Posted February 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Hi all yes there is a lot of layers looks like I will have to get some wet and dry to get past it all, I would like to get it right down to the metal and then buy that blueing kits ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Use a stripper you can easily put waves in a barrel if you not super careful with papers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
activeviii Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 Any idea on the paint? you might just get away with thinners or acetone. wrap the barrel with kitchen towel and then soak it with thinners, put a bag tightly over the top so it doesnt evaporate to quickly. leave a few hours and test a patch, once it starts to move then scrap off. Scotchbite pad will finish it but i would start with the green pot pad first, if not then the purple will cut it back. you will need a bright polished finish for a bluing, anything less will look a mess. you could always strip paint and then black paint it. ask your local car body shop for a price for a two pack spray. Ok, its not Duracoat or Cerakote but easier than bluing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
station Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 If blueing then as others have said - avoid being too aggressive with wet and dry. Also be careful of what people call 'scotch' pads (proper name - non woven abrasive) when using with thinners or the like. Green ones are rated around P320 grit Red ones around P360 Grey ones around P1500 They use the same abrasive as wet and dry (silicon carbide) on them - very good for the correct job. I'd go with paint thinners or stripper and see what's underneath and hiding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traztaz Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 Best bet, sand blast the metals then Cerakote, pearl blast the wood then Duracote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliff 87 Posted February 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 I will get some paint stripper and see how that does, I was thinking of just spaying it but that will not protect it from rust and water will it ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markws80 Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 where do you live? we make paint stripper I use it on my guns and others if your close to Dorset I will let you have some Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 when we used to re-build engines ....first thing to do after stripdown was to remove all paint......that involved leaning them in a tank (sealed) overnight with carbon-tetra-cloride (CCL4).....think that is the stuff what drycleaners use Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markws80 Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 carbon-tetra-chloride is Nasty stuff and is a carcinogenic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 carbon-tetra-chloride is Nasty stuff and is a carcinogenic And was widely used by many, myself included Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliff 87 Posted February 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 I have been able to scrape a lot of it off, I have also had a word with my old man and he said he could spray it with metal primer then spray it for me with a air compressor ?? Thank you ever one for your help on my 1st time stripping a gun down, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
activeviii Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 Best bet, sand blast the metals then Cerakote, pearl blast the wood then Duracote Cerakote is very hard to get your hands on over here, as im finding out. Duracoat would be my thoughts too. to get someone to paint a whole rifle would be £150+. to buy Duracoat and have a go your self would be £32 If someone knows where i can get a mall amount of Cerakote in graphite black, H-146, then PM me PLEASE. i can get from over the pond for $35 but the postage and paper work is not good. lots of small fiddly parts i need to do and dont want to pay someone to do what i can do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 There's a bloke on SD in Colchester who does Cerakote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliff 87 Posted February 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 my dad has sprayed alot of cars, would metal primer work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
station Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 If you are now painting and not blueing it then sand it smooth, finish it around P800 - P1000 grit. Apply some sort of etch primer - 1k PVB is good, you can buy in aerosol and it has reasonable build compared to a wash primer. Give it an hour or so then a light flat with P1200 paper - dry will be fine and will avoid trapping any moisture. Then apply some black paint - Matt, semi, gloss - whatever you want. A good aerosol black is called Hard Hat - worth shopping around for. Personally, I would avoid using a spray gun - more hassle than its worth and you will probably end up overloading it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliff 87 Posted February 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 Thanks station I will give this way a try and hope it comes out ok, just need some help how to sort out the stock why i am at it would a heat gun be ok to use ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
station Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 Thanks station I will give this way a try and hope it comes out ok, just need some help how to sort out the stock why i am at it would a heat gun be ok to use ? Personally, no to the heat gun. What finish on the woodwork are hoping to do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliff 87 Posted February 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 well it is just sprayed black and I would like to get it back to the normal colour but at the same time a good finish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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