welsh1 Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 deadly is a bit much, in english law you can use non deadly force to prevent injury. if OJ and pistorious lived in the uk and commitment these crimes it would be lock them up an through away the key. You can use reasonable and proportionate force,so if you were being attacked with a knife in your house and picked up a knife and stabbed someone who then died this would be reasonable and proportionate force in the situation. What you cannot do is find someone in your house who tries to punch you and you pick up a knife and stab him to death. As long as you can justify your actions you will be cleared. Oj and op live in countries where firearm laws are different to ours,so you cannot compare the situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 the whole thing is a very sad affair, but the more I have watched the case on tv the more I am being drawn to the conclusion that it was an argument that went tragically wrong with Reeva locking herself in the bathroom and pistorious shooting her through the door in a rage,, just my opinion mind atb Evo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjh Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 Guilty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 he should have just done the british thing and just kicked the door Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harlowmaverick Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 Aris is right, south Africa is not a friendly place to be. Having been there many times and living on a farm there I can concour that you shoot first, then worry about the questions to ask later. This guy is disabled and has probably felt vulnerability like no one on this forum given where he lives and his situation. Even in guarded compounds terrible crimes are still committed under the noses of the so called security forces that are there to protect and serve. Pistorius shot the gun, for what reasons only he will know and may God judge him when his time comes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennym Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 You can use reasonable and proportionate force,so if you were being attacked with a knife in your house and picked up a knife and stabbed someone who then died this would be reasonable and proportionate force in the situation. What you cannot do is find someone in your house who tries to punch you and you pick up a knife and stab him to death. As long as you can justify your actions you will be cleared. Oj and op live in countries where firearm laws are different to ours,so you cannot compare the situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennym Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 You can use reasonable and proportionate force,so if you were being attacked with a knife in your house and picked up a knife and stabbed someone who then died this would be reasonable and proportionate force in the situation. What you cannot do is find someone in your house who tries to punch you and you pick up a knife and stab him to death. As long as you can justify your actions you will be cleared. Oj and op live in countries where firearm laws are different to ours,so you cannot compare the situation. Pretty sure you can kill him by any means if he verbally threatened your life and it was reasonable for you to BELIVE that threat to be true Otherwise in a fight the best fighter would win It would be unreasonable to restrict a 10 stone man to use reflective force against a 20 stone intruder .... Is this right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 he better call saul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted April 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 I think this guy is as good an actor as a sprinter !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 Don't keel over when he is acquitted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 Pretty sure you can kill him by any means if he verbally threatened your life and it was reasonable for you to BELIVE that threat to be true Otherwise in a fight the best fighter would win It would be unreasonable to restrict a 10 stone man to use reflective force against a 20 stone intruder .... Is this right? So someone shouts at you and threatens to kill you,so you pick up a knife and kill him.think your going to lose in court. Your options could have been, Flee, yes it may seem cowardly,but it would de -escalate a situation and no one hurt. Call the police,while he is only shouting he is not attacking you,keep him talking the police will get there. As for the size issue, would you really pick up a knife if you were half the size,chances are you may lose and then have the knife turned on you. Your life has to be in imminent danger when you consider force that may kill,if you believe in that instance you were about to die then use all means necessary, you will explain your actions later. I think this guy is as good an actor as a sprinter !! Oscar should get an Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted April 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 So someone shouts at you and threatens to kill you,so you pick up a knife and kill him.think your going to lose in court. Your options could have been, Flee, yes it may seem cowardly,but it would de -escalate a situation and no one hurt. Call the police,while he is only shouting he is not attacking you,keep him talking the police will get there. As for the size issue, would you really pick up a knife if you were half the size,chances are you may lose and then have the knife turned on you. Your life has to be in imminent danger when you consider force that may kill,if you believe in that instance you were about to die then use all means necessary, you will explain your actions later. Oscar should get an Your right Rob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 Don't keel over when he is acquitted. I must admit to agreeing with you...something strikes me as being fabricated to get him off. One of the advisors was ill recently ..... was it genuine or spurious ? Doesn't seem quite right to me...I know its the SA way but no jury ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 his testimony is ridden with differences to his original statements, if he does get off he should consider Hollywood, just think he could play a pirate, or be good portraying any MP or senator KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 Agreed, he has more ******* in hime than a muck pile at a Bull farm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted April 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 We'll wait and see what the outcome is but I'm convinced he's lying! Good acting IMO!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ack-ack Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 Whos buying it? I've seen more convincing school nativity plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bb Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 Can anybody explain to me why we, in UK, are faintly interested in something that happened half a world away? South Africa's a dangerous place, end of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 Whos buying it? I've seen more convincing school nativity plays. And which part did you play up on the big scary stage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ack-ack Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 And which part did you play up on the big scary stage? A sheep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 OJ Simpson wasn't as good an actor as Oscar. I may well be wrong, but don't judge the case by what would happen in the UK - big mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 So someone shouts at you and threatens to kill you,so you pick up a knife and kill him.think your going to lose in court. Your options could have been, Flee, yes it may seem cowardly,but it would de -escalate a situation and no one hurt. Call the police,while he is only shouting he is not attacking you,keep him talking the police will get there. As for the size issue, would you really pick up a knife if you were half the size,chances are you may lose and then have the knife turned on you. Your life has to be in imminent danger when you consider force that may kill,if you believe in that instance you were about to die then use all means necessary, you will explain your actions later. Oscar should get an Inspired Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archiebald Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 Very sad circumstances, but irrespective wherever in the world you live you don't shoot anything with a lethal wepon you can't see. Its just common sence. Would you shoot through a door in your house where your loved ones could be? I doubt very much so.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 Has it been explained yet why he thought the intruder would be in a bathroom in any event? Not the first place to rob I would have thought. Unless he reckons they climbed in through the bathroom window? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 (edited) A sheep. found an old school photo of you dressed as the sheep Edited April 8, 2014 by kdubya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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