dead-eye-dick Posted December 30, 2003 Report Share Posted December 30, 2003 After having a poor 'game' day, I got to thinking. The shooting of live quarry, in my oppinion, is very diffrent to clays. Game requires more foward allowance, is getting faster - not slowing down - and is unprodictable. What do you think......... :yp: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leon Posted December 30, 2003 Report Share Posted December 30, 2003 I find that if I have not been out for a while a bit of practice on the clays gets my eye back in. The one ocassion when I have not done this I had a really poor day day as in cartridge to kill ratio. In my opinion it helps a lot. :yp: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red_stag88 Posted December 30, 2003 Report Share Posted December 30, 2003 I shoot clays about once a week. Yesterday I had a mornings pheasent shooting, I noticed a significant improvement, hitting a woodcock, a very high pigeon and a few L&Rs on one drive. I was in the pound seat but still, I was shooting very well, undoubtedly next time i shoot i wond hit anything! I have some duck flighting next week so I will tell you what happens! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ernyha Posted December 30, 2003 Report Share Posted December 30, 2003 I find that after a clay shoot my pigeon shooting often takes time to get back into and likewise i find it hard to hit clays after weeks of pigeon shooting. I think clays are a good thing to learn basic shooting techniques on but find them to be detrimental to my everyday shooting ie pigeons. :yp: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dead-eye-dick Posted December 30, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2003 I think it lulls you into a false sence of security, you get to know the way a clay flys and looks. When you get onto the field you kind-of feel confidant that you know just how much lead to give and how far away the target is, I for one, seem to be away behind, until I swallow my pride and adjust my shooting. :yp: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catamong Posted December 30, 2003 Report Share Posted December 30, 2003 I find that game (and pigeons), usually require less lead than most Sporting Clays, and that too much live quarry shooting will take the edge off my scores. Thats why most of my pigeon shooting is outside of the main clay shooting summer season - it's great fun shooting woodies in freezing weather but not so clays, where every missed bird dents your average...!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted December 30, 2003 Report Share Posted December 30, 2003 I think it makes you feel confident with the gun, but its not a substitute for the "real thing". Good Sporting layouts should vary direction and speed, to assimilate live quarry shooting, but most don,t. I don,t think it can turn you into, a good live quarry shooter. It should give you the experience and technique, to adjust your lead to the target , but only more "live" experience will really improve your shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted December 30, 2003 Report Share Posted December 30, 2003 I shoot skeet, and sporting at least once a week, and use about 4 clubs so as to vary the sporting layouts, I pigeon shoot about twice a week and my best skeet scores seem to be if I shoot the day after pigeon shooting, clays are great for practice, but there is no substitute for the real thing and the unpredictability offered, I also use a different gun for clays and pigeon, cheers Kdubya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teal Posted December 30, 2003 Report Share Posted December 30, 2003 For a beginner to shooting, clays should be shot only and you should get tuiton. I was shooting clays and after about half a dozen lessons your man said i should try out for some teams - this guy used to be a pro clay pigeon shooter. I chose not to, but I kept up the lessons for a bit longer. Amazingly now though I have not actually shot clays for 4 years. For me (many of you will disagree I suppose?) but the knowledge I gained in these lessons the technique etc.. means that even now 8 years on from my first clay lessons I still shoot pretty damn well. To be honest I was worried that my shooting would not have held up, sure I could shoot pigeons and walked up pheasants, but recently when I got an invite to a driven shoot :yp: :o I was dead nervous!! Shooting the first bird with my first shot I guess did wonders for my confidence, if I had missed it who knows maybe I wouldn't have shot so well. But I ended up the day with 7 left and rights, and the picker up was well chuffed with retrieving all the birds. The shooting that day was of a high standard - 2.85 carts per pheasant, but I did better than that and I am sure that of the total bag which was 300 with 9 guns shooting I must have shot about 50. Its true I did have some good pegs but for 80 cartridges, you can't complain at my ratio!!! Now I just have to work on getting another invite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilbe2 Posted January 3, 2004 Report Share Posted January 3, 2004 its a big help if your new to shooting, or if your constantly missing easy birds but once your used to it i dont really think it makes a difference i find pigeons easy to hit...a lot easier than clays! :yp: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red_stag88 Posted January 7, 2004 Report Share Posted January 7, 2004 Well went out for the teal - and missed every thing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOODIES WORST NIGHTMARE Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 I often wonder how many of the so called 'Kills' that are scored when shooting clays would result in picked birds had they been pigeon? It would make it easier to spot them if the big fella gave them bright orange feathers tho' instead of blue ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 I find clay shooting doesn't help you at all when your out in the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooktrout Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 I suppose that to someone who shoots live birds on a regular basis, say once a week, clays would make no difference, and may even be detrimental to your live shooting. To occasional shooters though, a tune up on clays beforehand is bound to benefit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supergame Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 Shot pigeons with a former FITASC and English sporting champion, without doubt he's the best pigeon shot I have seen. He rarely misses any pigeon within 65 yard and absolutely stones every bird. He is convinced that clay shooting and pigeon shooting certainly benefit each other, although in many ways they differ, I have to agree. One aspect that hasn't been mentioned is mental application when pigeon shooting, this I feel is where clay shooters do well, especially towards the end of a long hot or cold day when the wheels often come off due to lack of physical and mental stamina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ernyha Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 One aspect that hasn't been mentioned is mental application when pigeon shooting, this I feel is where clay shooters do well, especially towards the end of a long hot or cold day when the wheels often come off due to lack of physical and mental stamina. A good post that supergame especially the last point. Makes a lot of sense that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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