Blackpowder Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 (edited) Last week I had some serious trys at pigeon on drilled fields. There are not a great many birds about but sufficient to hold a shooters interest. Day one saw pigeon coming to the decoys with a lack of fear, a bag on 25 for 66 shots which I make a ratio of 2 : 64 shots per bird. That field was deserted the following day but found a few flighting across a valley and up the side of a wood only 8 birds for 16 shots . Day three at the favourite place where the farmer had described the pigeons not in numbers but as three acres of the blankety things. A difficult situation to shoot as it turned out facing both wind and sun but again 25 for 55 shots 2 : 2 shots per bird. Sunday the following day could not find any feeding birds so returned to Saturday's venue. Ideal conditions with the wind behind me, a better set up of decoys having brought some dead birds to add to the FUDs . I had changed guns as there was a problem developing with the Robert Hughs S xS, but the Pape had served well enough in the past. To cut as long story short after 20 shots and one pigeon down, a ratio of 20 : 1, I packed in with disgust at my total lack of marksmanship. Blackpowdwer Edited March 25, 2014 by Blackpowder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 with the .............? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpowder Posted March 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 with the .............? Some strange thing happened there TC posted itself before I was finished. Blackpowder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 Maybe you are thinking about it to much, thats when it goes pear shape. Sit back relax and enjoy your shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 I see, perhaps a little practice is in order! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitchrat Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 (edited) Last week I had some serious trys at pigeon on drilled fields. There are not a great many birds about but sufficient to hold a shooters interest. Day one saw pigeon coming to the decoys with a lack of fear, a bag on 25 for 66 shots which I make a ratio of 2 : 64 shots per bird. That field was deserted the following day but found a few flighting across a valley and up the side of a wood only 8 birds for 16 shots . Day three at the favourite place where the farmer had described the pigeons not in numbers but as three acres of the blankety things. A difficult situation to shoot as it turned out facing both wind and sun but again 25 for 55 shots 2 : 2 shots per bird. Sunday the following day could not find any feeding birds so returned to Saturday's venue. Ideal conditions with the wind behind me, a better set up of decoys having brought some dead birds to add to the FUDs . I had changed guns as there was a problem developing with the Robert Hughs S xS, but the Pape had served well enough in the past. To cut as long story short after 20 shots and one pigeon down, a ratio of 20 : 1, I packed in with disgust at my total lack of marksmanship. Blackpowdwer Not sure what a Pape is but could it be a trap gun?? They are built to shoot high. I went goose shooting in Canada with the clay club's champion trap shot (avererage 98/100) and he couldn't hit Jack ****. Used his trap gun, I bet he was under them all. PS I'm a SxS man myself, usually average about 50% kill rate but can't get on with my nice game gun Browning o/u. I find it cumbersome in comparison and can't swing it quickly enuff Edited March 25, 2014 by kitchrat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 W.R. Pape - Third listing down in the link. http://www.matchedpairs.com/othermakers.htm Not sure what a Pape is but could it be a trap gun?? They are built to shoot high. I went goose shooting in Canada with the clay club's champion trap shot (avererage 98/100) and he couldn't hit Jack ****. Used his trap gun, I bet he was under them all. PS I'm a SxS man myself, usually average about 50% kill rate but can't get on with my nice game gun Browning o/u. I find it cumbersome in comparison and can't swing it quickly enuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpowder Posted March 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 (edited) Not sure what a Pape is but could it be a trap gun?? They are built to shoot high. I went goose shooting in Canada with the clay club's champion trap shot (avererage 98/100) and he couldn't hit Jack ****. Used his trap gun, I bet he was under them all. PS I'm a SxS man myself, usually average about 50% kill rate but can't get on with my nice game gun Browning o/u. I find it cumbersome in comparison and can't swing it quickly enuff Hi kitchcraft no the Pape is a hundred year old standard boxlock ejector game gun. Usually got on fairly well with it , or put it this way no worse than any other gun. Since aquiring a John Dickson round action I have not shot the Pape much over the past three years. I had thought I was doing reasonably well over the two previous days shooting under 3:1 shots to kill ratio, Sunday pear shaped to say the least. Blackpowder Edited March 25, 2014 by Blackpowder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dead eye alan Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 Hi kitchcraft no the Pape is a hundred year old standard boxlock ejector game gun. Usually got on fairly well with it , or put it this way no worse than any other gun. Since aquiring a John Dickson round action I have not shot the Pape much over the past three years. I had thought I was doing reasonably well over the two previous days shooting under 3:1 shots to kill ratio, Sunday pear shaped to say the least. Blackpowder Don't matter how old, what make, what choke, even a catapult. As long as thy are pointed in the right place will do the job. So don't despair BP it will be better next time out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpowder Posted March 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 Don't matter how old, what make, what choke, even a catapult. As long as thy are pointed in the right place will do the job. So don't despair BP it will be better next time out. No certainly not in despair Alan, its just that was well chuffed with my previous three days performance then it went pinapple shaped. Blackpowder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitchrat Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 Hi kitchcraft no the Pape is a hundred year old standard boxlock ejector game gun. Usually got on fairly well with it , or put it this way no worse than any other gun. Since aquiring a John Dickson round action I have not shot the Pape much over the past three years. I had thought I was doing reasonably well over the two previous days shooting under 3:1 shots to kill ratio, Sunday pear shaped to say the least. Blackpowder Ooh Heck, no offence to Pape, I'm just out of my league here. (SxS Laurona for me, I often use the stock as a prop to help me out of a ditch!) As to Dead Eye Alan, dead right of course but my point was that some types of gun shoot differently to others. Until you get dialed in you may want to point it in the WRONG place!! Game gun vs trap gun is quite a few degrees lower, at 40 yds that could be a foot or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpowder Posted March 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 Ooh Heck, no offence to Pape, I'm just out of my league here. (SxS Laurona for me, I often use the stock as a prop to help me out of a ditch!) As to Dead Eye Alan, dead right of course but my point was that some types of gun shoot differently to others. Until you get dialed in you may want to point it in the WRONG place!! Game gun vs trap gun is quite a few degrees lower, at 40 yds that could be a foot or two. Could not agree more, no matter what bore, choke etc etc. you have to point in the right direction. Many years ago someone told me that if you have two guns you have one to many. Blackpowder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 Could not agree more, no matter what bore, choke etc etc. you have to point in the right direction. Many years ago someone told me that if you have two guns you have one to many. Blackpowder That may be true for some. I can usually swap from my semi auto to o/u pretty seamlessly. And 3 shots to 1 bird isn't that terrible. If that is a reasonable average for you and you're happy with that, then that's all that matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 Some of the better days decoying I have had have seen a shots to kills ratio exceed the average by a factor of two or three times. The higher the ratio the more difficult the birds which is how I like it. Decoying can get pretty boring if they all come into the 'killing zone' in the same way and are shot at 20m which is perfectly possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danoi99 Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 I just got a 100% kill ratio on my last outing. Cool or what? here's a picture of the bag, and the weapon of choice. 1 shot, one bird !!! Great day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocknee Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 Some of the better days decoying I have had have seen a shots to kills ratio exceed the average by a factor of two or three times. The higher the ratio the more difficult the birds which is how I like it. Decoying can get pretty boring if they all come into the 'killing zone' in the same way and are shot at 20m which is perfectly possible. Totally agree which is why I enjoy flight line shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted March 26, 2014 Report Share Posted March 26, 2014 Some of the better days decoying I have had have seen a shots to kills ratio exceed the average by a factor of two or three times. The higher the ratio the more difficult the birds which is how I like it. Decoying can get pretty boring if they all come into the 'killing zone' in the same way and are shot at 20m which is perfectly possible. I love dropping the more difficult birds. That's why, on Saturday, with the pigeons diving in from way up, I started to shoot them on the way down. This is far more satisfying than waiting for them to hover amongst the decoys, looking for a spot to land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dbw1shrops Posted March 26, 2014 Report Share Posted March 26, 2014 There's nothing more satisfying for me than seeing birds on a sunny day folding there wings back and diving in to the decoys only to be met be a head on collision in mid air 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitchrat Posted March 26, 2014 Report Share Posted March 26, 2014 There's nothing more satisfying for me than seeing birds on a sunny day folding there wings back and diving in to the decoys only to be met be a head on collision in mid air I like the thud of a high bird hitting the deck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dbw1shrops Posted March 26, 2014 Report Share Posted March 26, 2014 +1 Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted March 26, 2014 Report Share Posted March 26, 2014 I like the thud of a high bird hitting the deck! I have never had a 'high bird' let alone one which hits the deck. What is it like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitchrat Posted March 26, 2014 Report Share Posted March 26, 2014 I have never had a 'high bird' let alone one which hits the deck. What is it like? Orgasmic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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