Lord Geordie Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richie1606 Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 Really bad news. Lets hope there's no mass hysteria from the press. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new to the flock Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 H5N1 has probably been in Britain for a very long time, the same as it has been in Canada for a very long time. It is the sub strain from Asia that is the one that kills and can be transmitted to humans who are in close contact with fecal content. There is no need to panic as the tests are not in yet. Latest release from DEFRA http://www.defra.gov.uk/news/2007/070203a.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the pelt man Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 LG It's not here, it MIGHT BE here Your a DRAMA QUEEN or do you work for the media PELTMAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzyboi Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 What does this mean for shooting? in particular pigeon shooting for the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisNicholls Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 LG It's not here, it MIGHT BE here Your a DRAMA QUEEN or do you work for the media PELTMAN I'm afraid it is here and has been confirmed as the H5N1 strain. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/suffolk/6327193.stm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted February 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 LG It's not here, it MIGHT BE here Your a DRAMA QUEEN or do you work for the media PELTMAN No Queen THATS for sure! I am just very concerned for the comming Pigeon shooting LG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the pelt man Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 LG It's not here, it MIGHT BE here Your a DRAMA QUEEN or do you work for the media :o PELTMAN No Queen THATS for sure! I am just very concerned for the comming Pigeon shooting LG LG Just saw the news yep looks like i owe you an apology. I've just got back from that way and yep i have Flu, yes my Dad did cook Turkey thigh/drumstick I Kid you not As for all the Pigeon shooters do they do a Camo Space suit Looks like you will have to shoot as many as you can but burn them on site. Save yourselfs the trouble, you can buy Flame throwers on E-Bay. They can reach 50yards and toast the Pigeons at the same time PELTMAN What does this mean for shooting? in particular pigeon shooting for the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzyboi Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 So basically pigeon shooters are screwed from now on?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 So far, all those who have been infected worldwide have come into intimate contact with infected birds. intimate contact. its ok . we shoot not **** em Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzyboi Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 So far, all those who have been infected worldwide have come into intimate contact with infected birds. intimate contact. its ok . we shoot not **** em But what does that mean about shooting/eating them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 But what does that mean about shooting/eating them? that will be down to the government. if they put any restrictions on people moving about the country side. like the f&m fiasco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pin Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 We just have to be careful, if you pop up from the hide and you see a piggy with a tissue or it sneezes then shoot it but don't send the dog for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzyboi Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 We just have to be careful, if you pop up from the hide and you see a piggy with a tissue or it sneezes then shoot it but don't send the dog for it acchoooo But what does that mean about shooting/eating them? that will be down to the government. if they put any restrictions on people moving about the country side. like the f&m fiasco. f&m was easier to control as they wasnt airbound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmerguy.22 Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 As it is just down the road from me, a group of 20 people were supose to be going roost shooting in our local woods yesterday but it was canceled by the land owner!! I for one will deffinetly keep shooting them on our land as they can cause £100's of damage!! Even if i cant pick them up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kip270 Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 mmm think you may have DEFRA onto you, and maybe a fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmerguy.22 Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 Might be a problem then! Speaking to one of the guys today who was supose to be shooting yesterday in the woods and he said we are in the restricted area so arn't actually allowed to shoot them at the moment!! Will have to look into it tomorrow! Will be a big problem if that is the case!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookie Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 I thought that the whole point was that you could not export live birds within an area of 800 square miles from the source of infection. That's only about 15 miles radius from the farm. Ok, so there might be issues with wildfowling on the Alde and round Southwold, but Snape is about that sort of distance away, so anything south of that should be ok. If anyone shoots out towards Eye and Braiseworth (like you shoot on the Tannington Pigs land), you should also be ok as long as the landowners are fine with it. Do we have anyone from DEFRA or the BASC on that can give us a difinitive answer to take back to landowners? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 9R Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 I shoot right on the edge of the larger survey area and the farmer has told us to carry on as normal, just keep a lookout for any dead birds etc whilst we are out.. Still a worry though, apparently the meat of infected birds is ok to eat if cooked propperly, not sure I want to risk it though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poacher Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 MORE TO THE POINT WHAT IS BLAIR DOING NOW, talking to George W about Iran. Isn't it convienient that this outbreak emerges as he's up to his neck in **** . Don't let the media distract you from whats really going on !!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 This is just another one of the perils we have to endure, as our planet gets ever smaller, and I don’t mean literally but in terms of globalisation. As a nation we now import most of our goods from abroad and in the case of foods and other ‘perishables’ that means in hours not days or weeks like in the old days. Any pathogen that occurs in far-flung countries can now be here working its havoc before the powers that be can ever hope to stop it. It’s a fact of modern life and one we’ll have to get used to. Unfortunate for those that work in affected (or should that be infected) industries and, in this case, those of us who enjoy our sport. No doubt if shooting is affected the anti’s will be pleased…it’s an ill wind that blows nobody any good etc etc! The human race will keep on expanding whatever mother nature throws at us but remember… we’ve been here for what just 2 million years, the dinosaurs were here for 50 million and where are they now? And another thing…Bernard Matthews business turnover is reported to be some 400 million a year. That’s one hell of a lot of people eating his crappy turkeys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 H5N1 is only really a problem due to Intensive farming methods. Bird Flu like human flu has been arround for ever its just in Asian countries where welfare isn't a concern as far as farm animals is concerned the workers are exposed to it in such quantities that you get the transferrance to humans. I have to say I was surprised it was on a Mathews farm as when you rear that many birds you have to be very hot on disease prevention and I'm surprised a wild bird managed to get any where near a turkey but it says a bit that it was just confined to the one shed. Having been on a few of his farms and processing plants it still amazes me the population of the UK wants to eat his products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 DEFRA update... Scene of outbreak All poultry to be culled Visitors disinfected and restricted access 3km Protection Zone Poultry kept indoors and tested 10km Surveillance Zone No movement of poultry to or from area except for slaughter Trains carrying live poultry are prevented from stopping in the protection zone Bird fairs and markets banned Increased surveillance of wetland areas Domestic birds not to share water used by wild birds Footpath restrictions likely only on free-range farms People in towns not affected unless they keep poultry. Restriction Zone Isolation of poultry from wild birds Poultry movements to be licensed Source: Defra Nothing about shooting then! All bird gatherings - including shows, markets and fairs, and pigeon races - have been banned nationwide (throughout England, Scotland and Wales) until further notice (this will be kept under review as the disease situation develops). I wonder if anyone has told the 1000's of pigeons I've just put off the rape fields this morning!!! There is no reason for public health concern. Avian influenza is a disease of birds and whilst it can pass very rarely and with difficulty to humans, this requires extremely close contact with infected birds, particularly faeces. Advice from the Food Standards Agency remains that properly cooked poultry and poultry products, including eggs, are safe to eat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 http://www.defra.gov.uk/animalh/diseases/n...ral/index.htm#4 http://www.nationalgamekeepers.org.uk/news/21/ “Gamekeepers will want to do all they can to help the containment of this potentially very disruptive disease. It is fortunate, from the gamekeeping standpoint, that the game shooting season has just ended, while game rearing for next winter has not yet begun. The impact on gamekeeping, even close to the outbreak, should therefore be comparatively small so long as the disease is contained.†A good day to bury bad news? Like loans for peerages etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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