Ttfjlc Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 Hi guys somebody I know reckons he had a good day with these today and claimed they were 1550 fps?!?! I replied that they were 1500fps but he reckons his were new ones? By the way I'm talking of the 27g 7 1/2 clay loads and as far as I'm aware there wasn't a 'new' type out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 It may be no recommendation if you saw my shooting but I use nothing else. They are actually 29 gram no.6 shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ttfjlc Posted June 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 That's the game variety sir, still supposed to be a great cartridge for the money, I've checked hulls website they're still 1500fps for the clay version Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bisondan Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 It may be no recommendation if you saw my shooting but I use nothing else. They are actually 29 gram no.6 shot. They do a 27 gram clay load in 7.5 shot in plastic and fibre wad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 Whether they are 1500 or 1550fps, it makes very little difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deershooter Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 Put them through the chronograph it won't be any where ne'er 1500 fps try 1350 if you are lucky Deershooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ttfjlc Posted June 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 Whether they are 1500 or 1550fps, it makes very little difference. I agree I just wasn't sure if there was a new range out but checking their website it's all the same still. Put them through the chronograph it won't be any where ne'er 1500 fps try 1350 if you are lucky Deershooter Have you done this yourself deershooter or know of someone that has? I personally don't use them and prefer their pro fibre shell or their super soft comp x shell when my 9 year old son has a go with my 12 bore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beeredup Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 there good i find i reduce my lead with some targets and always get good breaks with them the only reason i am not using them is they had sold at xmas when i stocked up so currently on Victory challenger my other favourite clay ammo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ttfjlc Posted June 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 Fair play to you mate, I'm not the best at adjusting lead swings according to cartridges I'm using. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deershooter Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 Yes I have chronagraphed them 1321 1310 1350 1295 I have chronagraphed most and nothing does 1500 feet per second trust me If any one wants to use my chrono let me know and arrange a visit at orston shooting ground Deershooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 there good i find i reduce my lead with some targets and always get good breaks with them the only reason i am not using them is they had sold at xmas when i stocked up so currently on Victory challenger my other favourite clay ammo Really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ttfjlc Posted June 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 Yes I have chronagraphed them 1321 1310 1350 1295 I have chronagraphed most and nothing does 1500 feet per second trust me If any one wants to use my chrono let me know and arrange a visit at orston shooting ground Deershooter Interesting reading how the closest result is still 150fps less than stated! Mind you as Mark Russell told me you wouldn't notice it when shooting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon123 Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 I only use these hull superfast's now, and have had some very good results. I've been using them for a month or two now, tried them along side with Hull pro fiber's and to be honest cannot see any difference of the break which i'm having, and at a fraction of the price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ttfjlc Posted June 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 I only use these hull superfast's now, and have had some very good results. I've been using them for a month or two now, tried them along side with Hull pro fiber's and to be honest cannot see any difference of the break which i'm having, and at a fraction of the price. I too have used hull pro fibres in 24 grams and yes they do cost more! I take it the superfasts kick more? I found the pro fibres nice and soft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon123 Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 I too have used hull pro fibres in 24 grams and yes they do cost more! I take it the superfasts kick more? I found the pro fibres nice and soft I couldn't feel hardly any more kick in the super fast over the pro fibers. might be marginally though. If i could afford to shoot the pro fibers all of the time then i would Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 My go to cartridge from them coming on the market. Tried loads of others and keep going back to them, I used them on the north v south shoot and they hit all the targets hard as anything else. Friend who runs our clay club uses them now and swears by them,shoots all the registered shoots with them. Not found a better cart under £200.00 a thousand. The new express power reds look to be the same 1500 fps and 27g. Figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ttfjlc Posted June 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 How do you find the recoil figgy? I only ask as I like the idea of buying one type of shell for me and my other half. I'm not sensitive to recoil but my good lady is, she shot fiocchi's 21g shell and had no ill effects after a 100 bird round at grimsthorpe yet when she used trust's 28g shell they hurt her a bit. She was using my sxs so I know it's light compared to an o/u sporter but then again she doesn't like a heavy gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 Interesting reading how the closest result is still 150fps less than stated! Mind you as Mark Russell told me you wouldn't notice it when shooting the guessed MV is a back calculation from 2.5M where the chrono is for a proofing test run. my fast 24gram load is doing 1350 at 2.5M yet no-one thought it was odd. i could have done a back calculation and added 50-150fps (depends on where in the world you are) but i didnt. i kinda get annoyed with all these super dooper speeds, or odd requests.... the 1500fps is a guess, nothing is going to go 1500fps unless there is alot of slow burning powder. 1500fps loads bark at both ends. if a cartridge manufacturer says something it usually is fishy. when looking for a smooth shell, check out 1300fps loads. they usually only do 1200fps at 2.5M and they are soft. saying that, i do like my 24g #9 homeloads at 1350fps at 2.5M. maybe i should start stating mine do 1500fps? (only kidding) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 A friend who spent much of his working life developing loads for a commercial loader always said higher velocity than standard was detrimental to patterns,but as he said ,try selling a `low velocity` shell to people ! He once loaded some `softer` shells for a client of mine ,they were devestating on good pheasants.They were low velocity,28gr . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 I find them punchy I will stick to my 21g Comp X Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ttfjlc Posted June 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 A friend who spent much of his working life developing loads for a commercial loader always said higher velocity than standard was detrimental to patterns,but as he said ,try selling a `low velocity` shell to people ! He once loaded some `softer` shells for a client of mine ,they were devestating on good pheasants.They were low velocity,28gr . Good point about the 'low velocity' sales pitch, imagine that! Now on sale the lowest velocity shell on the market! I find them punchy I will stick to my 21g Comp X Thanks Shaun think I will too! For how much clay shooting the good lady and I do they seem to fit the bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 I don't find Superfasts punchy at all. Black golds are punchy after shooting the hulls. The hull comp x 28 gram are very soft. But no 12g cartridge for sale will be softer than comp x 21g. I find that the more punch you feel off a cart you automatically alter your mount ie not pulling into your shoulder so hard and don't feel It as much. Have you tried recoil pads like the Musto d30 ones that fit in a pocket in the coats and vests, makes a huge difference. Figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 I don't find Superfasts punchy at all. Black golds are punchy after shooting the hulls. The hull comp x 28 gram are very soft. But no 12g cartridge for sale will be softer than comp x 21g. I find that the more punch you feel off a cart you automatically alter your mount ie not pulling into your shoulder so hard and don't feel It as much. Have you tried recoil pads like the Musto d30 ones that fit in a pocket in the coats and vests, makes a huge difference. Figgy There is softer. Training loads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ttfjlc Posted June 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 Cheers figgy never heard of that one, was thinking of a recoil pad for my other half when we get around to getting her a gun from wabbitbosher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 I use a Kickeeze pad, have done on my last 3 guns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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