Gordon R Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 It might well be interesting, but informative - I think not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston72 Posted December 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 It might well be interesting, but informative - I think not. didn't realise there was a criteria, if you want me to inform you about anything regards judicial execution in GB from 1705 onwards please let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 Albert Pierrepoint Saint or Sinner. What is the point of posting this topic? It’s nothing to do with shooting and is a completely pointless waste of time and the sites bandwidth. That era is gone and wont in the foreseeable future return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdsallpl Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 didn't realise there was a criteria, if you want me to inform you about anything regards judicial execution in GB from 1705 onwards please let me know. Don't worry Winston72. Some appreciate different subjects Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul65 Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 (edited) Albert Pierrepoint Saint or Sinner. What is the point of posting this topic? Its nothing to do with shooting and is a completely pointless waste of time and the sites bandwidth. That's what Off Topic means. Edited December 14, 2014 by paul65 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 Winston - thanks for the offer, but I am as informed as you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdsallpl Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 That's what Off Topic means. You said it before I got the chance, thanks. Perhaps fortune will re-think why he is on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston72 Posted December 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 Albert Pierrepoint Saint or Sinner. What is the point of posting this topic? It’s nothing to do with shooting and is a completely pointless waste of time and the sites bandwidth. That era is gone and wont in the foreseeable future return. its in the off topic section"Talk about things other than shooting" so no its not pointless especially when people obviously want to discuss it Winston - thanks for the offer, but I am as informed as you. if you say so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdsallpl Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 Winston - thanks for the offer, but I am as informed as you. Yes but I'm not and I'm interested. If you have no interest in this then why post, there is plenty of other topics that you may find interesting. Why comment on this one if your not interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 birdsallpl - I didn't realise that only people agreeing with a topic were allowed to post. Who died and put you in charge of the Forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston72 Posted December 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 birdsallpl - I didn't realise that only people agreeing with a topic were allowed to post. Who died and put you in charge of the Forum?check out the moderators opinion on page 1 or 2 I believe they are in charge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdsallpl Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 birdsallpl - I didn't realise that only people agreeing with a topic were allowed to post. Who died and put you in charge of the Forum?[/quoteI owe you an apology Gordon R I confused your posts with another post that stated ' what is the point of posting this topic' Sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston72 Posted December 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 Right there on page 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdsallpl Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 Yes but in fairness he was only really saying he thought it a bit bizarre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 Winston72 and birdsallpl - apologies accepted - end of the matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 (edited) Just been reading through some old posts(only just getting to grips with the site) and came across a few old posts and found some peoples thoughts regarding Capital Punishment (a hobby of mine studying it) and just wonder how people viewed Mr. Albert Pierrpoint saint or sinner i have read about him in depth, I believe him to be quite a remarkable man but still not sure whether he is saint or sinner.I realise many may have no idea who or what he was and this may be an age related topic. If you care to look into the archives of this forum reff threads on capital punishment (the long drop method )you will find a compleat guide to capital punishment from the sentencing of a prisoner to his treatment in prison ,to his date in the execution shed and the disposal of the body . There was a very strict protocol that determined how a person should be treated and finally executed . There are many myths reff capital punishment and I can assure you that they are myths . Hanging done by a skilled hangman was a very quick and humane method of execution . Harnser Edited December 15, 2014 by Harnser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoggysreels Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 Ironically the saint or sinner question was a conudrum that vexed Pierrepoint .. "though apparently to varying degrees" .. and how much alcohol he'd drank when answering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 capital punishment in my eyes should be brought back be it a detterent or not,, pierrepoint was good at his job which is basically what it was " a job " would I do it myself ? I don't really know if I could but with the dna evidence that they have today then I probably could, but how would I feel if I dropped an innocent man at the gallows ? that's the question that would cripple me, I would be devastated to hang an innocent man ,,it has been done in the past, I would of hung Mr saville without batting an eyelid, also any others like him and I would not want paying to do it either, I also at times think it should be brought back , its a very hard one to answer as I do not think it would ever act as a deterrent but I do think there should be a place for it in our laws, pierrepoint was seriously affected by what he did even if he didn,t show it,, sinner definitely NO , saint also definitely NO atb Evo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 (edited) capital punishment in my eyes should be brought back be it a detterent or not,, pierrepoint was good at his job which is basically what it was " a job " would I do it myself ? I don't really know if I could but with the dna evidence that they have today then I probably could, but how would I feel if I dropped an innocent man at the gallows ? that's the question that would cripple me, I would be devastated to hang an innocent man ,,it has been done in the past, I would of hung Mr saville without batting an eyelid, also any others like him and I would not want paying to do it either, I also at times think it should be brought back , its a very hard one to answer as I do not think it would ever act as a deterrent but I do think there should be a place for it in our laws, pierrepoint was seriously affected by what he did even if he didn,t show it,, sinner definitely NO , saint also definitely NO atb Evo Whilst I would love capital punishment to be available, in reality I could not support its return as I dont trust plod and our judicial system enough to get it right every time,Google Stephan Kisko as an example, there have been far to many instances of wrongful prosecutions and down right set ups.as for pierrepoint his history shows he was erratic to say the least,and the strange thing was it seems his father was the driver in that he perfected I believe his technique and knot? rather worrying really.still at least the man understood gravity. KW Edited December 15, 2014 by kdubya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricko Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 Pierrepont did hang many Nazis at the subsequent trials after the main one at Nuremburg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krugerandsmith Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 Just been reading through some old posts(only just getting to grips with the site) and came across a few old posts and found some peoples thoughts regarding Capital Punishment (a hobby of mine studying it) and just wonder how people viewed Mr. Albert Pierrpoint saint or sinner i have read about him in depth, I believe him to be quite a remarkable man but still not sure whether he is saint or sinner.I realise many may have no idea who or what he was and this may be an age related topic. Kept the job in the family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 I read his autobiography a few years ago; an interesting read. As others have said, just doing his job, if somewhat distasteful. From what I read he appears to have wanted to execute his job well with a quick and clean drop. Just been reading through some old posts(only just getting to grips with the site) and came across a few old posts and found some peoples thoughts regarding Capital Punishment (a hobby of mine studying it) and just wonder how people viewed Mr. Albert Pierrpoint saint or sinner i have read about him in depth, I believe him to be quite a remarkable man but still not sure whether he is saint or sinner.I realise many may have no idea who or what he was and this may be an age related topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 Albert pierrepoint was a master of his trade and a very compassionate man . The last words the condemned person heard was Albert saying "don't worry son I promise you won't feel a thing " Harnser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston72 Posted December 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 Whilst I would love capital punishment to be available, in reality I could not support its return as I dont trust plod and our judicial system enough to get it right every time,Google Stephan Kisko as an example, there have been far to many instances of wrongful prosecutions and down right set ups.as for pierrepoint his history shows he was erratic to say the least,and the strange thing was it seems his father was the driver in that he perfected I believe his technique and knot? rather worrying really.still at least the man understood gravity. KW pretty sure there is no Knot involved rather a brass eyelet worked into the rope,the length of drop is determined from a chart http://www.capitalpunishmentuk.org/hanging2.html#tablebut the real skill came from the hangmans adjustments depending on his opinion of the man's (or womans) neck strength, Stephan Kisko is a wonderfull example of why we shouldnt, but theres a lot of reasons why maybe we should oooh to play God yippee lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston72 Posted December 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 for anyone interested this is a rare interview with the man himself http://www.bbc.co.uk/liverpool/realmedia/features/pierrepoint.ram in which he dispels a lot of myths some of which are perpetuated on here if link doesnt work google pierrpoint radio interview bbc radio liverpool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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